New poll: 59% of US men support a ban on TiMs in women's sports, but only 46% of women support banning TiMs. Frankly, I'm sick of women who won't stand up for other women.

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[–]WildApples 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It is not just younger women. I was just speaking to a woman in her 60s who told me that wanting to save female sports is a right-wing (and therefore bad) talking point. And she spent years working at a women's support organization and considers herself a supporter of women's rights, so I definitely did not expect that from her. The mainstream media is brainwashing progressive people into being against women's rights by making it seem like the only people who are for women's rights are conservative extremists.

I think that a lot of older people are also overcompensating for possibly having been slow to accept gay rights; now they accept whatever BS politics is attached to the LGB cause without question so they can feel they are on the right side of the civil rights movement this time.

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You are so right on media brainwashing people to think that those who want to save women's sports are Rightwing - even the linked article is called something like "most American's agree with TRUMP's position on transgenders in sports" as if agreeing with Trump on ONE THING makes us irrational or KKK members.

[–]emptiedriver 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yep, there was an article on NPR's FB the other day that made it sound like being against the "Equality act" was something that conservative Religious organizations had taken it upon themselves to do, and that the only reason Republicans were voting against it was to calm down orthodox jews and crazy christians.

The entire comment section was people shaking their heads about the separation of church and state, a few comments about "just leave people alone", but almost nothing recognizing the real issues at stake. And when it was brought up, people were clueless about facts (believing trans women have no advantage after transitioning, can't compete until they've been transitioned at least a year, etc)

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because of the US media painting opposition to the Equality Act as a religious issue, most people have no idea that the Equality Act allows ANY man or any GROUP of men to access sex-segregated spaces where women and often children, are naked or otherwise vulnerable.

The US media has a lot to answer for; NPR, Democracy Now!, CNN, MSNBC especially because "Progressives" who don't have time to study the issues closely, take them at their word.

[–]aloris342 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with you that people seem completely clueless about transwomen maintaining an advantage after transition. I think that the low profile of accurate statistics about male and female features is a problem.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tribal politics is disgusting no matter what side you are on.

Being willing to throw your fellow humans under the bus because it's related to anyone's talking point is psychopathic.

People matter.