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[–]Nosce_te_ipsum 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It always bothered me that the sports issue is what most people concentrate on when talking about TIMs in female spaces. While it's justified for people to be outraged about that, I would have thought putting convicted male sex offenders in prisons with women would've enraged the masses more. And maybe people think those women are criminals and deserve no sympathy, but what about allowing men access to women's domestic abuse shelters and rape crisis centers?

The truth is that the women who end up in prisons and shelters are some of the most vulnerable in our society, and have no voice. Everybody has failed them, especially (mainstream, liberal) "feminism". I wonder if we'll ever look back on this with horror and vow to never allow it to happen again, or if things will just continue to worsen, with no hope or justice in sight.

[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are photos and video footage of TIM athletes trouncing women online for all the world to see. There are also many prominent people & organizations (such as the ACLU, the IOC, the MSM) who take the position that TIMs being able to compete in female sports is "the civil rights issue of our time." Odious, misogynistic TRA athletes like Cece Telfer and Ragehell McKinnon/Veronica Ivy give interviews with the press and make posts on social media that reveal how entitled & male supremacist they are...

Whereas what's happening in prisons is all happening out of sight - with no footage, photos or social media posts. And in today's world, if there's not a clip of an event, then the event didn't happen.

Plus, women in prison aren't just "some of the most vulnerable in our society" as you say, they are also a group hardly any other group seems to care about. Those who argue for abolition of police & prisons and point out the ill of "the incarceral state" are entirely focused on males.

Look what's happened with the Prison Rape Elimination Act in the USA. In implementing the PREA, all the focus has been on males being raped mostly by other male inmates in male prisons, & to some extent by guards/staff as well. By contrast, very little attention has been paid to female prisoners being raped or sexually assaulted in female prisons either by staff or by other female prisoners.

In fact the PREA is now used as a/the major justification for why TIMs should be transferred to female prisons. The "rationale" is that male rapes of other males is the most important thing to be reduced - as long as that objective is achieved, or aimed at, who cares if by moving male convicts into female prisons, female prisoners end up getting raped by male prisoners? So long as the male prisoners are better off is all that matters.

[–]BEB[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's barbaric.