We need to talk about SuperStraight.

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[–][deleted] 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Never forget that nothing we said was ever valid until a straight male made a TikTok and a meme about it.

This seems like an overgeneralized interpretation that will make you needlessly upset.

Straight males have had jokes about this ("traps are gay") and it's never picked up steam. (That's a good thing, it's homophobic and crass.) Not only that, straight men such as Shapiro and Peterson have been defending biological sex for years now and it wasn't treated as valid just because they said it. They are dismissed because they are straight white men far more often.

The tag getting a lot of support not because of him, but because the reactionary meltdown Streisanded it into the stratosphere. For those who were quietly sick of gender identity nonsense, it gave them a way to throw shots back using the same language against the TRAs. It's insanely clever, and hilarious.

And the backlash isn't any different than what happened to other GC voices - it's not like the TRAs bowed down to him because he's a straight male. I find it extremely likely he will lose friends, partners, or jobs because of this. His face is out there, there WILL be vindictive TRAs trying to run his life for a long time. SuperStraight is being deplatformed on reddit right now.

I am curious how our newfound "allies" will react to this. This is a group of people who are honestly not used to being told no. It will be interesting.

This is how you lose allies. Many people who agree with us are sick of being judged and belittled when they just want to do the right thing. If you can't manage to put away your biases because it's right to treat people with openness and compassion before judgment, then do it because it will lead to success of your cause.

[–]purrvana 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'll add Joe Rogan too since he has a significantly higher reach than the other guys you mentioned. All his podcasts about trans issues (like the ones with Debra Soh and Abigail Shrier) were censored off Spotify when he first joined. He had to work hard to get them back up. He was also called a transphobe while Spotify's staff threatened to walk out for giving him a platform.

[–]BEB 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I was randomly talking to a customer service rep on the phone and he brought up Joe Rogan's interview with Abigail Shrier and how it made him terrified for his little girl. (I'm a chatty person IRL and often have long conversations with complete strangers).

So yeah, Joe Rogan is on average an annoying, sometimes blindingly stupid meathead, but he took on this tough topic when very few others would and took the heat for it without backing down that much.

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Sometimes you need a stupid meathead to take on these issues because they'll stubbornly stand their ground and shrug off people trying to bully them into silence. Being a belligerent asshole has its uses.

[–]BEB 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Totally agree. And most of Rogan's male-meathead audience would probably never listen to a feminist unless Head Meathead endorsed her.

I actually like when Rogan has science types on because he mainly stays out of their way beyond asking the same type of basic, meathead questions I would have asked them.

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That's true, I don't care about or follow him but I did remember he covered MMA TIM athlete fallon fox breaking an opponent's skull. A cursory search indicates comments from him as early as 2014. It also shows in 2021 people are still writing articles going after him for it.