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[–]whoamiwhowhowhowho 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Parler was allegedly hosting a number of illegal threats and not moderating them well. At some point companies contributing to its existence had to think about their own reputations and legal protection. No one should be required to host illegal content.

[–]lefterfield 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then why is Twitter repeatedly allowed to get away with illegal content? Why is Facebook? Reddit? And that thing about "not moderating them well" is a claim put out by Amazon, not an objective source. Parler had moderation, they were complying with the terms of service. What they did wrong was refuse to bow to demands to remove Trump.

What I think is more frightening than individual people making threats is corporations being able to smear them with no evidence and no criminal trial. People making threats should be reported to the authorities, and the authorities should be allowed to do their job and prosecute them. At that point - remove them. But we're already seeing Twitter being able to claim that the 100k+ accounts removed were all QAnon. This contradicts their earlier statement about why they were removing accounts, and just as a matter of logic, it sounds to me like bullshit. Extremist conspiracy theory groups do not gain 100k+ followers. But Twitter gets to smear them with no counter defense and no evidence. We're already seeing national guard members being pulled for making "objectionable tweets" - not said to be extremist, no threats, just said to be conservative.

The same will happen to other groups who go against the establishment. What's happening is that corporations are trying to convince you that private citizens are the danger that only they can protect you from. Meanwhile, these billionaires get to further consolidate and tighten the noose around everyone's neck.

[–]whoamiwhowhowhowho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Then why is Twitter repeatedly allowed to get away with illegal content? Why is Facebook? Reddit?

That isn't an argument against Parler being taken down. It's up to those sites and whoever hosts their data to deal with whatever is being posted on them. This is about Parler and whether it was hosting illegal content and/or content that broke its host's ToS. Parler is responsible for following the ToS it agreed to, and that doesn't depend on Twitter, Facebook, or Reddit adhering to any contracts they signed.

Amazon claims Parler did break their ToS, like you mentioned. From what I saw of what was being posted on Parler before it was taken down, I have a hard time waving Amazon's claim away.

What they did wrong was refuse to bow to demands to remove Trump.

That is far from the worst thing that was posted on Parler. The worse issues have been well documented.

Extremist conspiracy theory groups do not gain 100k+ followers.

How do you know one can't?

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And I take it you have evidence that the companies I mentioned were following their TOS with Amazon, had no illegal content that would give cause for Amazon to shut down the server? Like the child porn Twitter repeatedly refused to remove? Don't sit here and defend these corrupt companies and then chuckle to me about "TOS". That is an excuse to silence inconvenient voices, and pretending otherwise is ignorant to the point of ideological blindness.

That is far from the worst thing that was posted on Parler. The worse issues have been well documented.

Worse than child porn?

How do you know one can't?

  1. Because I know of many of the accounts that were removed, and they were not Q supporters
  2. Because I can logic and make claims based on both inductive and deductive reasoning.

At this point, I have to wonder if you're lying, stupid, or being paid by Amazon.