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Feminism is the movement to liberate women from patriarchy. We stand up for the rights of women to control our own bodies as individuals and to control women-only spaces as a class.
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"Women do not decide at some point in adulthood that they would like other people to understand them to be women, because being a woman is not an ‘identity.’ Women’s experience does not resemble that of men who adopt the ‘gender identity’ of being female or being women in any respect. The idea of ‘gender identity’ disappears biology and all the experiences that those with female biology have of being reared in a caste system based on sex." - Sheila Jeffreys, Gender Hurts
Women conditioned to "lie down and take it"
submitted 3 years ago by AdmiralPangolin from self.GenderCritical
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[–]powpowpowpow 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (4 children)
This is a trend even today and I'm talking from experience... I'm 19 yo and my mom always told me to just "take it" and if I told "no" to sex to a bf he would go after another woman that wouldnt deny him sex and cheat. It sucks and hinders my hability to impose myself in some situations and I'm lucky I found a guy that doesnt exploit that and has been helping me to impose myself more, but it is hard af even tho I know its a really disgusting logic, I still get insecure and it doesn't help that my mom continues to reinforce this notion even nowadays... I'm sorry for your loss and for what your aunt went thru... I hope she heals
[–]VioletRemi 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (3 children)
The worst part in it is victim blaming, they making you feel like it is your fault, that men can't hold their penis in pants, so if you don't give to husband sex on demand - they will get sex somewhere else, and it is your fault, not theirs.
And similar is in religions as well. Like in most modern interpretations of islam, woman showing her body can make men horny, being horny is a sin, and it is women's sin that she made man horny, not his sin that he can't control himself. And women are punished for this by stoning or whips. It is so idiotic and victim blaming elevated to absolute.
[–]powpowpowpow 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (2 children)
Exactly, that's the really frustrating part that puts women down a LOT.
My ex boyfriend actually didn't care that I said no once and kept pushing it, and back then I still heard my mom more and was afraid of holding my ground and let him... it was horrible and not much later I broke the relationship off, its just awful and I hate I cant find support from my mom about this subject
[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago* (1 child)
It is terrible you can't get support from your mom about this. A lot of moms are pretty awful about a lot of topics, and undermine their children's autonomy and damage them in many ways. Not because the moms are bad people or don't mean well, but because of the way they were brought up and they don't have the ability to see beyond or break out the limiting, harmful beliefs they themselves were raised to accept as the truth.
But the good thing is, you're only 19 and you can see that your mom's views are in the wrong here, and you've already been able to form - and act on - your own beliefs that are quite different to hers. That's a credit to you. A big credit to you. Brava!
Still, it does hurt to know that many of our mothers can't/couldn't be relied on to provide support and meet our needs.
[–]powpowpowpow 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 3 years ago (0 children)
Thank you! It is better that way so I can break the cycle, which is hard when it comes to abusive views or ways ://
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