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[–]lefterfield 20 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 5 fun21 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

So... what if Ellen had decided to rename herself "Bob Johnson". Would no one be allowed to utter her birth name? Would anyone know who that refers to?

[–]MarkTwainiac 34 insightful - 11 fun34 insightful - 10 fun35 insightful - 11 fun -  (1 child)

I think it's time to go back to when Prince changed his name to a bunch of symbols that were unfamiliar and unpronounceable, so everyone just referred to him as "the artist formerly known as Prince."

I'm going to start referring to all these attention-seekers similarly: "the actor formerly known as Ellen Page," "the Olympic athlete and father of many formerly known as Bruce Jenner," "the filmmakers formerly known as the Wachowski brothers," "the misogynist dickhead formerly known as Charles Clymer"... and so on.

Muhammed Ali and Yusuf Islam never had any problem with people referring to them as the boxer formerly known as Cassius Clay and the singer-songwriter formerly known as Cat Stevens. Why do today's narcissists get such special treatment? Why do they alone get to memory-hole their own pasts?

[–]questioningtw 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because this is something I am loathe to say conservatives have a point on: the facts don't care about your feelings( They are totaly hypocrites on this, but I am going to ignore that for this) This over political correctness crap isn't about making people's lives better, it is about narcissism; and being obsessed with your feelings is a type of that. Ellen Page has a right to transition, but she has no right to force everyone to refer her as he and making eveyone immediately refer to her as Eliot. She has no right trying to make everyone forget that she once came out as a lesbian. She also has no right forcing the Umbrella Acadamy writers into making Vanya into a man. Bruce Jenner should have refused the woman of the year award.