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[–]DeepseaDemon 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

4) “Can you explain why gender identity doesn’t exist?”

I’ve never seen anyone explain gender identity in a way that wasn’t tactfully dancing around saying “sex stereotypes.”

But let’s pretend it does exist, that would make it a mental disorder (because feeling “wrong” in your body is obviously not the peak of mental health.) No other time do we entertain this. We don’t tell anorexics that yes they are fat and take them to get “self affirming” liposuction. We don’t tell people with multiple personality disorder that they actually have X number of people living in them. Any white person that “feels” black and expects to be centered by BLM is going to be severely disappointed. Why are women expected to entertain men in woman face and center them in feminism? (Side note: Minstrel shows and drag shows went hand in hand. Ask yourself, why is it still okay to be a caricature of a woman but not of a black person?)

Gender identity has no place near sexuality either, yet y’all keep trying to interweave them. Why is the way a man feels about his body supposed to make me override my sexual orientation to include him? Also, how DARE a heterosexual male consider himself a lesbian. Why does gender identity allow appropriation of minorities language? Two people with penises having sex is not lesbian sex. Any inclusion of real life penises will never be lesbian sex, regardless of how many bows and frills are included.

Gender identity for “non cis females” is then either recognizing they aren’t girly, hate being feminine, have internalized the patriarchy’s hate of femininity, are lesbians trying to feel normal, or women feeling wrong because of our oppression. When men treat women like a soulless fuck toy and y’all tell them they can be treated like a man (with respect), without intense therapy, that sounds damn appealing.

Gender identity for “non cis males” is either (once again) gays trying to live a “normal” het life, or they are here for the fetish aspect.

4) cont. “Don’t cisgender people feel like the gender they were assigned at birth?”

No. I’m a feminine lesbian who loves wearing dresses but I don’t “feel” like a woman. I feel like a human. I don’t wear dresses because I “identify as a woman,” I wear them because they are comfortable and make me look professional.

5) “Is it okay to invalidate someone’s gender identity? Wouldn’t invalidating someone’s gender identity be lgbtphobic?

Lol gender identity is innately lgbtphobic. As long as you let males call themselves lesbians and tell me that I’m a genital fetishist for being homosexual and not homogenderal, I don’t want to hear it. I’m not attracted to “femininity,” I’m attracted to females. Butch female women in fact. Does that make me heterogenderal because I’m attracted to their masculinity? See the circles we’re going in here?

Until you give the same respect you expect, I’m not doing any emotional labor I don’t need to do.

[–]slytherinxx 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’ve never seen anyone explain gender identity in a way that wasn’t tactfully dancing around saying “sex stereotypes.”

This exactly. My understanding of what makes me female is firmly based in my biology, which is the source of the sex-based oppression I have faced. I've never felt a "gender identity," and I'm willing to bet a lot of people currently neck-deep in queer theory also never felt a gender identity before the concept became popular ~5-10 years ago.