SNL just called out JKR for a 2nd time and more undercutting of white women - 3rd week in a row

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[–]loveSloane 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Then either your reading comprehension skills are flawed or you read what you want to read. I really don’t care either way what you think. I’m a multifaceted individual- I can care about feminism and also care about black men. Black men are my family of course I care about them. What I don’t care for is not wasting my time going back with racist white feminists, which is why I’m done talking to you.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I'm not racist. But women get called out all the damn time for defending men, including the men they marry or are related to. But because you make it about race, and threaten to call anyone who disagrees a racist, you think you ought to get a pass for your blatant misogyny. I don't buy it, miss "white women produce racial porn because they're so privileged". You hate women. You may love people of your own race, but you hate women as a class and don't believe in female oppression. Call me racist all the fuck you want, misogynist.

[–]loveSloane 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Oh my fucking god. All I did this whole time is say that when someone calls out black men being fetishized, they aren’t wrong and it is a problem. It’s racist. It reinforces racism. The fact that you had to fucking argue about it and point out that sometimes black men fetishize white women too was just deflection. I didn’t fucking say that white Women produce racial porn so what the actual fuck do you think you’re talking about? It is common knowledge that white women in porn make more money and are considered more desirable- it is common knowledge unless you’re a fucking racist white woman that white women, while being victims of patriarchy for being female, still have white privilege. I don’t know why you don’t want to acknowledge that, but you trying to fucking call me shit that I’m not and imply that I said shit I didn’t say is not going to make it any less true. You are a fucking racist. Your comments and your refusal to even admit to your privilege is proof of that. I don’t hate women and it’s fucking stupid of you to say that I do. I spend way to much of my time advocating for women and even my free time fucking arguing with actual misogynists for some asshole who doesn’t know me to say that I don’t care about women because I don’t think it’s okay for white women to pretend they aren’t privileged and for them to get upset when people call them out or make fun of their racist shit. I don’t give a fuck what you want to call me because you’re a waste of time. I don’t even care if this comment gets me booted from the sub because no self respecting woc would want to be surrounded by white women who silence them when they have something to say about race. You have been such a colossal waste of my energy.

Tldr- yes, females are oppressed. I never denied that. That doesn’t mean that white privilege doesn’t exist. It does. And white women benefit from it regularly. Including you coming from such a privileged place that you can’t even see how privileged you are. White privilege is privilege over poc- so white women still have privilege over woc. Just as male privilege is privilege over females. Your own comment about white men in charge indicates that even within a patriarchy with males on top, white men are at the top- yet you want to pretend that somehow doesn’t mean white women are at the top too? You can deny it if you want- the rest of us (woc and white women who aren’t racist) know it’s true.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

And white privilege for women = making more in porn. Yet you're not a fucking misogynist. Ok.

[–]loveSloane 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Oh my god- that’s not even the point I was making and if you’re too dense to get it, then I don’t know what to tell you. The point I was making was that there is a (Racial) discrepancy in how women in that industry are treated. Did I say that that’s the fucking be all and end all of white privilege for white women? No. There are thousands of ways that white women have privilege that woc do not. This was one of them- and one set in a specific environment. And the only reason it came up was because we were literally fucking talking about women in porn- so why would I have mentioned any of the other thousands of ways your privilege shows up? It wasn’t relevant.

So, help me out here- if two women are in the same exact industry doing the same exact work, and one of them makes more money and is told they are more marketable and desirable than the other because of her race, so she is promoted and given more agency than the woc, what is that, then? Since according to you it’s not an aspect of white privilege or racism? Keep in mind, as you said, the man saying this to both of them would be a white man. What then, is the reason that woc in that industry are treated the way they are in comparison to white women?

If you had said I hate white women Id get why you think that even though it’s incorrect. But to say I hate all women and don’t believe we are oppressed (which- why the fuck would I be arguing with tras everyday or even be here if I felt that way?) because I am a woc and I see things through the eyes of someone without white privilege is a stretch to me.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And the most important industry you can think of to demonstrate this is porn. Ok.

[–]loveSloane 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you truly not realize that someone literally fucking asked me specifically about porn? And that that’s where the rest of the conversation came from? So no, actually it’s not the most important industry I can think of to demonstrate that- it’s simply the industry I was asked about and the industry that was being discussed...

Eta- are you going to answer my question, and explain where the discrepancy I described stems from?

Eta- if you want, we can discuss the fashion, music, entertainment, and medical industry and I will gladly highlight the privilege that white women have in each of those fields- but that wasn’t what I was asked about previously, which is why I didn’t.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You want to paint it like I've been denying white privilege. That's a load of bullshit, and I don't believe you're dumb enough to think that's what I've said. But you made it about PORN, which is not a fucking privilege to be involved in. You are dishonest, and a misogynist.

[–]loveSloane 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

So are you going to actually acknowledge that someone asked me about porn to begin with?

And again, can you please explain where that discrepancy stems from? Clearly I don’t get it and you do, so the best thing would be for you to explain it to me.