To Kid or Not to Kid and Seahorse: The Dad Who Gave Birth documentaries review: childfree or child-bound?

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[–]questioningtw[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The kid or not to kid one actually sounds like a good documentary. But i am just so freaking tired of so called feminists acting like there is anything feminist about pretending that pregnancy and childbirth are not women's issues. In fact I am even going to go so far as to say how can you even feel like you were supposed to be even a man if you are pregnant. Most stuff both men and women can do, but in literally every animal it is the female that is pregnant! I mean holy shit this just comes across as virtue signaling.

[–]MarkTwainiac 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Also, it appears that a major reason the TIF featured in the second film, Freddie McConnell, a multimedia journalist for the Guardian, got pregnant - which was done via IUI - in the first place was for the purpose of a) starring in this documentary about a "man" being pregnant and giving birth, and b) suing the UK government in a landmark case to establish her "right" to be named the father on the child's birth certificate, thus utterly changing (destroying) the the meaning of "mother" and "father" in UK law - and removing from UK children the legal right, ability and means to know the basic facts of their own parentage. (Fortunately, McConnell lost the court case, which caused this narcissist and all the powers backing her to cry "transphobia!")

McConnell - whose Twitter feed is full of anti-woman content vilifying feminists who believe that biology is real and matters, such as JK Rowling and Rosie Duffield - now focuses a lot of her "journalism" on making and publishing videos about her young child. Another example of a child who cannot possibly consent being used as a show pony and parental validation device, trotted out constantly in the public eye to serve the needs of an attention-seeking parent.

[–]questioningtw[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That reminds me of Tomas Beadle who was another pregnant TIF, who was only claim to fame was being a "pregnant man" She also called transphobiia at women that were like whooptie do, a woman got pregnant! Where is our photospreads and spots on Oprah. I am tired of the media catering to these people.

[–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

To be fair, Beatie seems to have provided his kids a regular life out of the spotlight. There's no evidence any of the children are being labeled trans. He's got three boys and a girl, and they all seem typical. I don't have anything against trans people being parents as long as they're honest with their children about their history and don't try to interfere in their personal development.

[–]questioningtw[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, and a lot of it was really the medias fault too, they kind of objectified him imo. At least he wasn't trying to sue everyone and he stopped after having them.

[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't realize this was the same person from the court case. That's disappointing. I hope the kid can just have a normal life and not be pushed into political debates or encouraged to question his own sex. At least the child is a boy. Maybe he'll be safer that way? I worry about a little girl in that environment being pressured to transition.

[–]MarkTwainiac 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I fear that as this child grows up, Freddie will envy and resent him for being male and naturally having the male external genitalia, internal organs, biochemistry, build and characteristics that Freddie so covets.

Also, there's a huge contradiction between the way these so-called trans people complain that they were oppressively "assigned" the wrong sex/gender at birth and the alacrity and glee with which they publicly proclaim the sex/gender of their own offspring as soon as their own kids are genetically tested or scanned in utero, or they are born.

[–]worried19 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hate to think the worst of people without evidence. My hope is that they will be good parents. If this child is male and gender conforming, it seems unlikely that they'd push for this little boy to question his own sex. I don't know that they would resent the child. It seems both partners are FTM, so perhaps they will live out the childhoods they wished they had through him.

I don't believe trans people are inherently pathological or inclined to be poor parents. After all, most of the people transitioning their own toddlers and preschoolers are non-trans and straight.

[–]MarkTwainiac 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems both partners are FTMIt seems both partners are FTM

The other TIF that Freddie was shown with in the documentary was someone Freddie did not have an intimate relationship with. Coz Freddie is sexually attracted to males. Freddie and her TIF friend initially agreed to raise Freddie's child together, but their relationship quickly broke down. Freddie does not seem to have, or ever to have had, anyone who comes close to being a long-term life partner. The only other person who seems to be heavily involved in raising Freddie's child is Freddie's own mother.

perhaps they will live out the childhoods they wished they had through him.

It's always inappropriate - and often a recipe for disaster - when parents hope, wish or expect their children to make up for the shortcomings of their own lives by having the childhoods the parents feel they missed out on or were deprived of. Children shouldn't been regarded or used as healing devices for the psychic wounds and missed opportunities parents feel they experienced in their own childhoods.

I don't believe trans people are inherently pathological or inclined to be poor parents. After all, most of the people transitioning their own toddlers and preschoolers are a non-trans and straight.

Agreed. But I think Freddie and all the parents transing their own toddlers, preschoolers and even older children are pathological narcissists. Their main concern is "look at me me me!." Sorry, but I believe that people so utterly focused on attention-seeking and their own needs are indeed

inclined to be poor parents

Also, I think this has nothing to with whether the parents are homosexual, trans or

non-trans and straight

Narcissism is non-discriminatory. It affects all groups.