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[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I still think the solution to trans inmates is so simple. Pick a prison, male or female, for a region. Make a wing for the trans inmates that allows them to talk but not share physical space with male inmates/female inmates, and separately keep the trans inmates so they don’t harm each other based on basic physical stature. Let the NB and TW and TM have their own wing in an existing prison and don’t socially intermingle them or at least not their intimate facilities like bathrooms. Wow, was that hard? “Wah separate but equal” fuck off prison isn’t your validation station, what matters is you can serve your sentence (if applied fairly) safely. You still: get acknowledged for what you are, don’t violate other prisoner’s rights, and are safer than being housed with males directly and female prisoners are safer than being housed with a man there. It’s significantly kinder than putting trans people into solitary confinement. I remember watching a documentary on a max security woman’s prison in the US. The women got a cell, and an hour in a cage every day and maybe some guard interaction and no social time. It’s interesting that TW often get transferred to lesser security women’s prisons because there are not enough high security women’s prisons. Wonder why ever that is, and why the prison system would be happy to build more?

(Remember whenever bathrooms come up, TIM love to claim women pose more of a threat to them than they do to us- but the very second it comes to prison they’re “safer” with women, can’t have it both ways.)

[–]MarkTwainiac 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You pointed up one of the major difficulties here by mentioning that prisons have different security levels. A lot of males who ID as trans are categorized as convicts who require a maximum security prison - a category that in many countries doesn't exist for female inmates, or if it does, the number of facilities and beds are very limited - or even a super-max prison, a category for violent offenders that in most of the world only exists in the male estate.

What's more, a large number of TIM convicts require not just max or super max security, they require speciality prisons for dangerous sex offenders specifically.

In England and Wales, for example, it was found in 2018 that whereas 19% of all male prisoners are doing time for sex crimes, nearly half the (48%) of TIMs in prison are convicted sex offenders - and male sex offenders in E & W are typically placed in separate specialist prisons.

In most countries, there is no way correctional systems built for female convicts can possibly deal with and accommodate TIM prisoners like Andrew Burns, now Tiffany Scott, branded one of the most dangerous inmates in Scotland's male prison system:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/1492364/transgender-prisoner-tiffany-scott-andrew-burns-dangerous-sheriff/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/3316509/transgender-prisoner-tiffany-scott-riot/

https://www.womenarehuman.com/non-transitioning-male-transgender-inmate-demands-female-prison-guards-perform-strip-search/

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/transgender-prisoner-branded-one-scotlands-11837767