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[–]BEB[S] 27 insightful - 1 fun27 insightful - 0 fun28 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yes - in that podcast, both Rogan and Shrier bent over backwards to make sure that their audience knew that adult trans people are making sane choices in their sane minds to cut off their sane body parts and become sane lifelong medical experiments.

I'm so sick of people kowtowing to the idea that someone with gender dysphoria is sane. IMO they aren't.

I do think that people with genuine dysphoria (and people who are autogynephiles or trenders) should be helped by professionals to find the solution that works for them, but to pretend that being obsessed with the idea that your body is wrong to the point where you cut off healthy flesh and take hormones at levels not meant for your sex, is crazy.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree they have a mental illness and should be helped with therapy and anxiety meds.

It's like body dysphoria. Doctors arent bending over backwards to chop healthy peoples legs off or blind them because they got dyshoria because that's crazy. But somehow chopping off girls breasts and boys cocks its normal and it has nothing to do with a 1,5 billion dollar medical busines of hormone drugs and sex operations.

[–]BEB[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Way back when, I worked with anorexics at a treatment center - not as a counselor.

We did the opposite with anorexics as parents, doctors, therapists, and medical associations are doing now with "trans" kids - we encouraged body acceptance and positivity. We tried to "fix" these girls minds instead of encouraging them to change their bodies to match their warped self-image.

I don't know why people my age, who should truly know better, can't see this trans kids thing as the outrage it is - you're telling kids that they aren't perfect, that they need to spend $$$ and venture into the medical wilderness to "fix" themselves, well, their bodies, when it's their minds that need help. It's unfathomable that parents and therapists can't see that.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is really insane. I don't understand how any of the adults supporting this can live with themselves. it's mind boggling

[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree about the therapy, but not about the anxiety meds. Anxiety meds are fine when used short term - 2 weeks or so - in a real crisis, like when there's been a sudden death of a loved one, a crisis like 9/11, or you've just gotten terrible news such as a diagnosis of stage 4 cancer. But putting people on anxiety meds for longer periods, and for conditions like "gender dysphoria" and body image issues, will only screw them up further.

People with "gender dysphoria" and so many of the problems that people, especially many young people, suffer from today need to learn skills that will help them tolerate, handle, overcome and wait out their anxiety. They need therapy that will help them accept and better deal with reality, and will assist them in developing perspective and resilience.