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[–]MarkTwainiac 50 insightful - 1 fun50 insightful - 0 fun51 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It galls and ENRAGES me that all the press is reporting this story as though the issue at hand is "testosterone levels in female runners."

The issue at hand is testosterone levels in male runners (and other athletes) who ID as female because they have DSDs that caused them to be born with malformed external male genitals, and who have used their atypical-looking male genitals an an excuse to compete in female sports.

The whole Semenya saga is a long con and a total insult to female humans. Girls and women are not simply men with missing or malformed dicks!

[–]ANIKAHirsch 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. I'm shocked at how this article is framed.

Will they apply this reasoning to TIMs also, or are these rules only for intersex individuals?

[–]NecessaryScene1 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They have separate sets of rules for DSDs and trans. Although obviously there's a lot of overlap in analysis, for the DSDs where you've got XY genetics and androgen sensitivity. Does a 5-ARD XY male have any different performance to a normal XY male? The results of testosterone suppression are probably similar.

The current rules for both are basically "males can compete if they're legally 'female' in their country and their testosterone is 'low enough'", broadly. Ruling out XYs with DSDs altogether wouldn't have made sense while they were permitting XY without DSDs.

Actual females can compete without restriction - the "levels in female runners" is a lie.