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[–]GConly 23 insightful - 3 fun23 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

I know. I've never ever seen a transbian pass IRL. They just look like men in drag.

[–]Bitchcraft 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Frankly, you wouldn't know if they pass. The biggest giveaway is usually height, a small subset of men are naturally in the female range in that particular parameter.

See https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Toupee_fallacy

e. (sorry I don't have a better reference for this. rationalwiki used to be cool)

[–]Sebell 24 insightful - 3 fun24 insightful - 2 fun25 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Anytime someone on reddit says "I'm passing..." look at their history, you'll find their selfies pretty easily, and... never has one been close to passing. I'm not going to say across a room you might not notice, or you might not notice right away until someone speaks, but unless someone has had a lot of surgery, they don't tend to pass - and then they look like someone who has had a lot of surgery done.

The transwomen who pass the best are actually 60 - 80 year olds who aren't super concerned with their looks anymore and transitioned a long time ago. But they aren't transbians - they are attracted to men. That makes a HUGE difference. Transwomen attracted to men are much more likely to pass, for whatever reason.

[–]ruskiix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I saw one once. They said they started hormones early enough for their hips to widen—I don’t know if that’s a thing or maybe they just had slightly wider hips to start and hormones boosted the look with fat distribution. They posted a video and spoke to show their voice. Zero AGP vibes so probably HSTS.

I haven’t really seen anyone else even close to that level though.

Edit: I went looking for it and can’t find it anywhere, so, it’s also possible that was an actual female human posted to give unrealistic hope to others. But if they did pass that well they’d probably want to delete everything.