So the thing that always gets me is when I see that trans people won't date other trans people. It all boils down to the fact that the surgery doesn't actually work. The hormones don't actually do the whole job. There is this knowledge that it's going to be some sort of uncanny valley experience and unless you have a fetish nobody wants that in your most intimate and vulnerable moments. There is often talk of postop being different but it's doesn't. I would never sleep with a postop TiF. No fucking way is a pumped up flesh tube getting near my vagina or going in my mouth. I guess that makes me transphobic. I imagine that men feel the same. A hole in your body is not a vagina. It might resemble one from the outside. We know the complex structure of our vaginas. The muscles, the complete clitoris (not just the outside bit), the lubrication, the changes during arousal. It's not just a hole to stick a dick in. Men know that too. Sometimes they can pretend but that is exactly what it is, pretending.