If this is "sex positivity," I weep.

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[–]MelanieMicrowave 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

appropriate vs dangerous/inappropriate sexual activity

She consented and planned to have a gangbang scene. How are you deciding what sexual behavior is appropriate?

[–]Irascible-harpy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Our behavior doesn't exist in a vacuum. There's nothing wrong with have multiple partners or engaging in different sexual acts, but aggression is part of her sexual fantasy and that needs to be viewed with some class analysis. Why would a woman seek to "push her boundaries" in a sexual situation? Why would she use porn terminology like "gangbang" when referring to having sex with multiple male partners instead of a foursome? Does it benefit her as a woman as part of a class of women to pretend like her sexuality is not influenced by her experiences and the world around her? Can we gain any insight into the way she may view herself and her relationship with her sex when her fantasies include being "shoved to the ground"?

Liberalism sells us the idea of choice feminism. That our choices are inherently empowering because they are choices. This ignores the larger context. Recognizing social influences, norms, expectations, and class-based power structures (especially relating to male dominance and the patriarchy) is essential in radical feminism. Perhaps you are in the wrong forum or should do further research into radical feminist ideas.

[–]MelanieMicrowave 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why would a woman seek to "push her boundaries" in a sexual situation?

New things are fun. It's like moving on to rollercoasters once you can handle the ferris wheel or the tilt-a-whirl. Novelty isn't inherently bad.

Why would she use porn terminology like "gangbang" when referring to having sex with multiple male partners instead of a foursome?

Because a "gangbang" specifically involves the "bangee" as the submissive partner with the "bangers" as the dominant partners.

Does it benefit her as a woman as part of a class of women to pretend like her sexuality is not influenced by her experiences and the world around her?

Does it matter? Is exploring those feelings inherently wrong?

Can we gain any insight into the way she may view herself and her relationship with her sex when her fantasies include being "shoved to the ground"?

Can you? Do you have access to this woman's internal monolog? Or are you making assumptions about her behavior based on what you THINK she is consiously or unconsiously feeling and experiences she may or may not have had?

Recognizing social influences, norms, expectations, and class-based power structures (especially relating to male dominance and the patriarchy) is essential in radical feminism.

Oh, you can absolutely "recognize" social influences. But what, specifically, makes this woman's sexual experience "wrong" or "bad"?

[–]lefterfield 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

  1. Is it dangerous? Yes. 2. Is there potential for it to become rape? Yes.

  2. Am I stopping her or anyone else from doing it? No. So why don't you mind YOUR own business about other people's opinions?

[–]MelanieMicrowave 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So why don't you mind YOUR own business about other people's opinions?

Because some people have stupid/bad opinions that are incorrect and harmful and they should be challenged.

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, your opinions are stupid and bad and are therefore incorrect and harmful.