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[–]MarkTwainiac 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

I get your point. But right now there is a huge, international "be kind" campaign - complete with hashtag, posters & stickers - going on that's directed solely/entirely at GC women. We are constantly told to put the feelings of trans people first & foremost always because the pain that people with gender dysphoria or trans identities suffer is always way worse than the pain any other group of humans has suffered over the course of history. There's even a word for this manipulative BS: transpaining.

Every day trans activists & their allies of both sexes hector women like me, telling us we are duty-bound to "be kind" towards trans people, but funny thing is, they never ever tell this to boys & men, even though millions of boys & men are verbally cruel & genuinely violent toward vast swathes of "the vulnerable" as a matter of course on the daily.

Worse, when women do say that whilst it's important to show empathy to trans people's pain, it's also important to acknowledge that girls & women also have discomfort with their bodies, are routinely called insulting names & verbally abused, & many of us have suffered sexual abuse &/or battery at the dicks & hands of men, we are just "weaponizing our trauma to hurt trans people." That's exactly what thousands have accused JK Rowling of doing. Including MSM news outlets like The Guardian.

Many of us believe that the constant admonitions to "be kind" that are directed only at girls & women is just a cynical ploy to take advantage of female socialization, to get girls & women to use the empathy that we've been raised to develop & to prize as a way to get us to back down from standing up for our own interests & protecting our hard-won rights.

My point was that the claim all TIMs seeking medical help are creepy predators is very black and white as well as untrue, giving me information about historic abuses against women seems tangential.

But the topic of this thread, as the title shows, is NOT about "all TIMs seeking medical help" - it's specifically about TIMs who go to gynecologists. Gynecologists are physicians who specialize in female reproductive organs. What's more, for a number of decades now the vast majority of gynecologists in countries like the US, UK & Canada have been women. No one here was questioning TIMs seeking medical care from GPs, urologists, proctologists, internists, cardiologists, endocrinologists or any other field. We are questioning why so many insist on going to gynecologists - and for you to suggest otherwise is just moving the goalposts.

As for the claim that bringing up "historic abuses against women seems tangential," well that's always what women get told, innit? Women's "lived experiences" are always beside the point, unimportant, not germane, and it's really selfish & mean to bring them up in a discussion about why trans-identified males would go to gynecologists because acknowledging the realities of girls & women's lives - not to mention the difficult position these men are putting female gynecologists in - just distracts from centering & prioritizing TIMs & their pain, which is the worst pain imaginable. Nobody suffers like trans.... Transpaining in action.