When did your friend/family member peak?

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[–]Agodachi 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm reading some answers here (I've also seen other answers related to TRA nonsense and how families receive it) and I'm quite surprised by the amount of parents who support it. I live in the United States and I grew up in an immigrant family. They certainly don't support the trans community but they also don't support gay, lesbian, or bisexual people either. I should mention that my family is also Muslim (although they are quite liberal compared to other Muslims) so in general, LGBT stuff is not supported, especially when compared to Christianity and Judaism.

I can assure you that most immigrant households throughout the U.S. don't support this trans nonsense but they're also not fully aware of it either. Most immigrant familys are working tough, blue-color jobs and don't really have the time or energy to spend doing research on trans issues going on. Hell, some members of my family don't even know that this is going on. From my experience I've seen this reflected in many households, whether it's African, East Asian, Southeast Asian, Arab, Latino, or European (mainly Eastern European, because the few West European immigrants I have met are quite wealthy, privileged and supportive if this stuff). Again, immigrant households are typically more traditional and religious, so they aren't really supportive of LGBT stuff in general.

Sorry for my unrelated tangent but I felt like including that point here. Now to answer the question, my family has never quite "peaked," they never supported this stuff in the first place. I do try to let my parents know what is going on, and they'll be quite surprised to know that some colleges let TIMs room with females and it leads to a domino effect of sorts where they sometimes bring these issues up with their friends.

When it comes to my friends who have "peaked" they've usually been the ones who have never really understood or supported the trans stuff. My childhood friend never understood or supported it but eventually had to put up with it and try and ignore it because she was attacked for asking questions in high school. The few other friends and family (my age) are quite similar, they don't understand or approve of it but they don't engage in discussion about it and aren't really aware of how bad things are getting.

I wish I had a friend who peaked, because I really supported this stuff before, so it would be nice to talk to someone in a similarsituation. The discussions I have with my friends are way tame compared to the ones happening here.

[–]vitunrotta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's odd, isn't it - to find a strange alliance with people who you'd usually butt heads with. My parents are super conservative Christians and against any LGB stuff, but they're also very likely against this TRA nonsense. So we come at the same conclusion from different sides of the spectrum. Or I should say: a similar conclusion. For them, it's of course imperative that women are women and men are men. They don't understand the depths of this issue, nor do they really care. Also, gay people for them are nothing but perverted sinners so... Yeah. I won't start poking that beehive. I know it would just end up in a fight anyway.

I'm lucky in that my own sister was the one who peaked first, so we can talk about this to each other. What about that childhood friend of yours, would she be open to any kind of discussion or is it truly a dead end? What was she questioned about originally, did it make her pro-TRA?

[–]Agodachi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My friend is Christian, so she thought boys being girls and girls being boys didn't make sense. Her reasoning was that "God made female and male." She started a discussion with a TIF about what supposedly made her male, and this fight broke out. Imagine this, a young black girl who's gone through a lot of abuse growing up being verbally attacked by a towering, grown white man and white girls in denial about how she doesn't know struggle and should check her privilege. Ever since then, she never really wanted to engage in discussion about it again. If she came across a trans person, she used their preferred pronouns and name and went on with her life. Another time she kindly asked someone "what made someone feel like a man." The specialgenderqueertrans kids at school didn't like that so they talked badly behind her back spreading rumors.

I can talk to her about these issues but she really isn't invested in them. She's quite busy so she doesn't really want to spend her freetime talking about something like this. Sometimes I'll rant to her, she'll listen and agree but I don't want to stress her out considering her experience.

[–]PeakingPeachEater[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I come from a family with immigrant mother. She's deeply Catholic. Yeah, neither of my parents agree with the T nonsense, they think it's just gay men crossdressing. So...When I try to explain to my mom about TiM cousin how it's just...wrong...She basically waved it off and was like "knew he was gay/different" but she didn't really GET the trans issue. She just doesn't favour LGB nor the T nor non religious people (if you're not Catholic she doesn't like, even if Christian, she'll just "tolerate").