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[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It doesn't require empathy, and that's not something that can be forcibly understood. It requires someone to be considerate of who is going to be cleaning up.

[–]lefterfield 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That to me is empathy?

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nope, similar but different. Either way, you can press the point that it's inconsiderate to commit suicide along with other things with males as they grow but people are going to commit suicide regardless of how much it inconveniences others.

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you're missing my point. The way you describe the reasoning is how empathy is often defined. And I would never tell ANYONE that the reason they shouldn't commit suicide is that it inconveniences others - that's a cruel and dismissive thing to say. What I would tell young males is that they should always be considerate of other people regardless of the circumstances. If that has the side effect of reducing male suicide - cool. Not a bad thing at all. But not the primary reason to teach them empathy.