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[–]Anna_Nym 45 insightful - 1 fun45 insightful - 0 fun46 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This doesn't make any sense. I know the feminist critiques he's trying to reference. But those critiques are talking about stereotypes of femininity, not biological womanhood. (Lower-class white women were excluded from femininity, too. The class aspects to these critiques always gets dropped.)

There has never been a point in history when anyone literally could not tell women of color from men of color. That's part of the history of violence that he references! This was sex-specific violence and sex-segregated coerced labor.

Can he possibly believe what he's writing? Can he possibly not know how incoherent and offensive what he's saying is? And why do men always feel so comfortable defining womanhood?

[–]chrysthefeminist 34 insightful - 1 fun34 insightful - 0 fun35 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And why do men always feel so comfortable defining womanhood?

Their most revered religious tracts, the Old Testament of the Christians / the Torah of the Jews, dating from far earlier than the birth of Christ, defined women as the second created, who were created solely as companions and helpmates ("meets") for men. And to this day, as we have seen, men are trying to confine us to that role, as being solely for them and not for ourselves. This is true not only of conservative "religious" men, but of the most "progressive", left wing, atheists, "feminists", "trans women", the whole mess of men. This shows the human male sex is completely irredeemable, and we'd really be better off without them.

[–]lavender_menace 25 insightful - 4 fun25 insightful - 3 fun26 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Following that logic men were created as companions for all of flora and fauna, as everything was created before men, so men were created last. In the same breath they are claiming to be the apex of creation as they were created last, which would make them perfect. The problem for them here is, women were created last, which makes women the culmination - the apex of creation.

Also sidenote: Adam literally means dirt, while Eve means life. Kinda telling if you ask me. The writers of their books were onto something 🤣

[–]chrysthefeminist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true, but I never knew the preachers / teachers of patriarchal religion to be logical.