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[–]JoeDzhugashvili[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Liberalism enslaved or eradicated most of my ancestors, as a black person with native and hispanic ancestry. Liberalism in terms of its crimes easily tops anything any communist regime has done; liberalism has probably produced more bodybags than fascism has. And yet somehow this does not at all discredit liberalism.

Your post ends with “History is written by the victors”, I ask, who won the Cold War again? You are right, history is written by the victors, liberals have warped history to such a disgusting degree that their worldwide genocide and murderfest lasting 300 years was not only inevitable, but also natural and an expression of freedom or some other meaningless term, liberals warped history such that the people that sacrificed the most horrifically defeating Nazism are in fact the same as the Nazis while the people that empowered them, have the same economic system as them, had the same white supremacist ideology as they did, and also led global empires are completely different.

Yes, liberals have revised history so much that the average French person believes America won WWII even though 86% of German soldiers to have died in the war died in the Eastern Front. No, liberals are no better than Holocaust deniers, calling a literal fucking famine a genocide on par with the Holocaust is just unironically actual Holocaust denial and comparable to pissing on the gas chambers in Auschwitz

[–]cybitch 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Who said anything about famines? Go educate yourself. And let me make one thing clear - I don't do oppression olympics. You want to be a vile, blood-thirsty tankie and defend mass murder because "well those other dudes murdered more" go ahead. Just don't expect me to give any more of a shit about the deaths of your ancestors than you do about mine.

[–]JoeDzhugashvili[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t care much about it all, mine or yours. My point is that it means nothing, “People died under communism” okay, people also die under capitalism too; clearly this isn’t at all an issue for liberal capitalism and people in liberal capitalism do not see the deaths as an issue, so my question becomes, why then should it matter for communism? Especially when communism also defeated nazism (whose ideological goal was an actual total genocide of all of Eastern Europe, tho I know many anti-Soviet Europeans have regaling stories of the lovely SS officer their grandparent met once), ushered in the Space Age, and cleared the way for the end of classical colonialism?