Upvote good, thoughtful comments that are not unduly mean! TRAs lost their ability to brigade and downvote ''sane TERFs'' on reddit to make us look more toxic. They're terrified people might see we're reasonable and it will work!

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[–]venecia[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

4th in place sorted by ''hot''

https://saidit.net/s/GenderCritical/comments/5kg9/to_all_of_you_trans_ladies_out_there/

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 40 insightful - 1 fun40 insightful - 0 fun41 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I mean it's a lame, low-effort post (sorry, original OP) but it's... not really comparable to what TRAs say to us. If THAT is the standard for "unduly mean" and "toxic" for women we are pretty much screwed, lol.

[–]quickbeam 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

"Kill them with kindness" is an expression for a reason. It often works. And it especially works when there's an undecided person and they see one side screeching abuse while the other side is sitting there calmly expressing an opinion.

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I agree with that, never said I didn't.

What I'm taking issue with is that there have been multiple posts today saying we are mean, but I have not seen any posts that are mean in my opinion. The OP of this post cited an example for me of what she thought was mean, and in my opinion it was hardly mean compared to TRAs saying we should shut up by having lady dicks shoved in our mouths and that JK Rowling should be raped.

[–]quickbeam 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just because something is less mean doesn't mean it isn't mean. LOL at the number of times I used the word "mean" in one sentence. Anyway, sometimes when you have the less popular view (at the moment - who knows whether it will be less popular once people see what's actually at stake) you have to display an almost unfair level of excellence to avoid having your views discounted. I've mentioned on other posts that I was a vegan in the early days when most people associated it with wild PETA actions. Some of those PETA actions may have raised awareness, but I think they also often turned people off veganism, whereas quieter, less confrontational education efforts like Vegan Outreach probably had a more net positive effect on turning people to veganism.

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We'll just have to agree to disagree that the post is mean. In my opinion, the post is low-effort, lame, and certainly not what I come here for, but I simply don't consider it mean.

But I definitely agree with you and see your point about how when you hold the less popular view, "you have to display an almost unfair level of excellence to avoid having your views discounted". That is very true!

[–]quickbeam 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm all about agreeing to disagree. Take care and keep up the good fight!

[–]RevengeOfTheCis 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You, too! Thanks!