JK Rowling just spoke again. She's fighting back

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[–]vitunrotta 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

First of all thank you for posting the tweets! Also - there is a BBC doc about this?! Must. Find. ASAP. And MOI! :D Oh god we are not alone! (My actual sister is lurking here somewhere as well btw... so more of us who are FINNISHED with this gender cult ;))

[–]radikaalirusina 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Another one here! The Finnish GC sub wasn’t very active but I’ve been looking for a place with likeminded finns, nice to know that some of us found their way here!

[–]vitunrotta 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

I fucking love your username. Rusina! I laughed out loud when I saw that. Raisins are ALWAYS quite radical, though. Trying to make their way into OUR cookies... Disguising themselves as chocolate chips... THE NERVE. /s

(VERY off topic - I was in a mental rush to create an account when I found this site and just made up this name. It does have a meaning but anyway. My other choice was "vuorinauris." Little background: my partner is a South American guy who loves to try to speak in Finnish... And we had spoken about animals and plants and all that before. Like you know, hirvi, porkkana, kauris, peruna, so on. Then we saw some video of deers and he gleefully tells me he knows the name. And just says "LOOK, it's a nauris." (And I thought I heard him wrong. Kauris and nauris are too close phonetically.) He repeated "nauris" and I almost died of laughter because well. I have a dorky sense of humour and thinking of some noble NAURIS e.g. standing in Järnefelt's "Landscape from Koli" makes me have a fit of laughter that usually ends up in me feeling like I cannot breathe. Ah! Had to share this silly story, totally off topic. May the raisins, rats and turnips finally unite!)

EDIT: Some wording for coherence.

[–]venecia 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

[–]vitunrotta 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Oh and, on a completely serious note - I have been wondering about spaces/places like that as well. I don't live there anymore but an online community could be a good start. Happen to know any? Feel free to PM if you want to talk in more detail. I have found the Finnish feminist groups in FB especially cult-like and would not like to experience that shit again. Maybe there's another way, I just don't know what.

[–]radikaalirusina 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Actually I fluidly identify as a chocolate chip so if you refuse to eat raisin cookies you’re incredibly grapephobic. /s

I don’t know any Finnish online GC communities sadly, but a discord channel or something similar for casual talk would be refreshing.

And you should have gone with vuorinauris, that story is hilarious!!

[–]vitunrotta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are you invading my space?! Raisins are NOT grapes. Actually one of my uncles IS a GRAPE so do not make fun of this. I will doxx you, you terrible, horrible raisinphobe. /s

...Speaking of the actual topic - I would love to be a part of a bigger site in Finland but I think so far the radfems have done pretty well. I think one of them was in AV (tietäjät tietää...) and posted many of their links. That's how I ended up here. Ha! :D

In any case I think even the name "radical feminist" sounds super off-putting to like 98% of the population - so something more GC would work better. There are, after all, some women who are NOT feminists and some gender-criticals who are not women :) Sisua!

[–]DogeWalker 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Also - there is a BBC doc about this?!

Yea, first bitly link goes to the video clip here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTRnrp9pXHY

The other links to go articles, but the second link doesn't work for some reason.

[–]ThrowAnyWayYouWant 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This doc is harrowing. It also led me to this open letter to GIDS leadership from a former clinician there: https://medium.com/@kirstyentwistle/an-open-letter-to-dr-polly-carmichael-from-a-former-gids-clinician-53c541276b8d

[–]vitunrotta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Damn. Thanks for the link.

[–]venecia 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did you notice a whole lot more encounters with trans people here? I swear this seems to be the ''internet bullshit encountered in the wild'' capitol of the world. It's where I met the creature that peaked me.

[–]radikaalirusina 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I actually peaked when I saw an article about Rowling, and a TIM had commented something along the lines of how the language should be changed so that women would be called menstruated/breeders (all in Finnish). I was actually kind of a TRA before but the thought of being called a “synnyttäjä” in a general conversation just made my blood boil.

Is it just me or are TRAs mostly incredibly privileged people? Imagine telling someone in the Middle East that they should just identify as a man in order to stop being sexually harassed.

[–]vitunrotta 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh my god. Exactly that. Imagine telling women - nay, even girls - coming from an extremely oppressed place to begin with, that because DUH they are WOMEN (natal, biological, whatever dumb word needs to be attached...) according to the TRA movement you can just "identify" as a man and that's that! Whoop whoop! No more FGM. No more harassment. No more misogyny. No more child marriages. It's fixed now! It's just ALL gone because you decided you're a dude one day. I mean my fucking god?! If THAT had been the answer all along I think we'd all be "dudebros" by now. Funnily enough, that nonsensical logic doesn't EVER go the other way around (where women would be taken seriously when they acted like women, looked like women, had their vulvas and boobs, and just proclaimed they were MEN now). It does NOT work the other way around. Rachel fucking Dolezal much?!

But we are inherently different biologically and we have been treated differently for centuries because of these biological (factual!) differences. The oppression of women hasn't happened because some people ~felt~ like women. It's because they (we!) WERE and still ARE women. It hurts my heart to think there are these proper second-wave feminists out there - waiting for our support, our understanding, our sisterhood - and these goddamn libfems are only thinking "well, I suppose a dick is as feminine as anything. Yay! Oppression is gone!"

UGH. Is there any radfem movement/organization that is trying to make amends with our oppressed sisters elsewhere? Libfems just seem to say "I like, can't, like, know how you, like, feel so, I like, wear a hijab because feminism, like, yay? Also femaledick like, so openminded like I can't even. Dicks before anything! I am so feminist! Hashtag TWAW! Wow! I changed the world!"

I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT. I am livid, in fact. I am done. I want change. How do we change?!