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[–]Amazing_Aardvark 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

That logic holds true if you think men's contributions here will only consist of debate or "constant shitposting". I dunno, I just think if women don't allow men in these conversations then we shouldn't expect men to speak up on our behalf either.

[–]homeless-g_c-mod 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How are you going to create a women-centered community for women with open access to men? If you allow an oppressed group and their oppressor group into the same space, it will come as no surprise when the oppressor group dominates the conversation.

How does, "We want to have private communities to discuss our grievances" translate to, "I'm not allowed in, so I don't have to care that women are treated like objects or worse?" Why do you think it so upsetting to so many people to have a women's only feminist community?

[–]Amazing_Aardvark 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My logic is this: we are here to critique gender ideology, which has a disproportionately negative impact on women. Naturally, the community discussing it will consist of mostly women. But any insightful and productive input is welcome, regardless of the contributor's sex.

It's fine if you disagree, and maybe you have more experience with this particular community, but in my IRL experience reasonable conversation about this issue is often enhanced if men are allowed to contribute.

[–]Veneficca 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Men have plenty of forums to enter conversations with women. Why can't we have one that's just for women? Why must men insert themselves into every single women's space?

I think it was fine the way it was before - men could post and comment and they did. But they were encouraged to go to GC Men or the GC Debate sub. Maybe what we really need is a specifically radfem GC sub and then a general GC sub for everyone. I recognize that lots of people are obsessed with this topic who aren't on board with radfem politics.