GC: How would you react if you saw a trans woman in the women's restroom?

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[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

No. Trends in a patriarchal society are measurable and provable.

I agree that trends are measurable and provable. It is proven from numerous studies that women are more supportive of trans rights than men.

According to a PPRI study, 51% of men support requiring transgender individuals to use bathrooms corresponding to their assigned sex at birth, compared to 40% of women. The same study found that 68% of women would feel somewhat or very comfortable with having a close friend who is transgender, compared to 57% of men. That's a significant difference! 52% of women say they would feel somewhat or very comfortable if their child came out as transgender, compared to 44% of men.

A poll found that 59% of men support banning trans women in women's sports compared tp 46% of women. 29% of men oppose banning trans women in women's sports compared to 34% of women.

There is a clear observable and provable trend that women are more likely to support the trans rights than men. Do any poll with equal numbers of random cis men and women and I will bet my life savings women will be more supportive of trans rights than men.

Trans men are men. While I hate the phrase "boys will be boys" because it is almost always used to excuse bad behavior, if I were to use that phrase, trans boys would be included under "boys" unless I specified "cis boys."

[–]Juniperius 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The polls you cite are invalid, because the people being polled are being lied to by omission. In order for any poll about trans issues to be valid, the people being polled must be informed that approximately 85% of transwomen choose to keep their penises and use them sexually, and that a large majority of transwomen are attracted to women. If the polls were honest about these facts, I can guarantee that the outcomes would be very different

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm sure even if all the participants were informed that 85% of trans women keep their penises and use them sexually, women would still be more likely to support trans rights than men. That's the point.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And why do you think that? What makes you confident that you can speak for women and claim we would all agree with you?

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't say all women would agree with me or support trans people. I'm saying women are more likely to support trans people than men. This has been proven consistently through studies and polls. The old GC sub even had a thread titled "Why are women the primary defenders of transgender ideology?"

https://web.archive.org/web/20200125091238/http://reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/eq0t36/why_are_women_the_primary_defenders_of/

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You repeatedly assume all women will agree with you based on what you have cherry picked as evidence.

The tired old poll you trot out still only represents a small fraction of Americans. Extrapolating that women worldwide will agree with those women, and therefore you, is not convincing. It never has been.

Then you assume based on nothing whatsoever that even if the poll were asking a different question, (would you accept TW in even though they like and use their penises) and claim women will still agree.

Why do you make this assumption just because a tiny microcosm of American women are ok with giving away female spaces.

Interesting to see you still cherry pick what you respond to and simply abandon and ignore any and all arguments you make that are proven wrong, preferring to instead only pursue comment chains where you can make repeated unsubstantiated claims.