GC: What is wrong with trans people working in sexual violence prevention?

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[–]Chocolatepudding 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If there is one thing that unites natal women regardless of anything else, it's an understanding of the fear of male violence, the unease about being undressed in close proximity to a man. Non-natal 'women' show themselves up a mile away because they don't understand this. Listen to yourself, silencing women who don't feel comfortable. Very patriarchal

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I am a natal woman and I don't understand this either. Also, how can I be silencing natal women when I'm a natal woman myself?

According to a PPRI study, only 40% of women support requiring trans people to use bathrooms corresponding to their assigned sex at birth. That means 60% of women, more than half, are OK with trans women in their restrooms. 51% of men support requiring transgender individuals people to use bathrooms corresponding to their assigned sex at birth. So cis men are more likely to think trans women don't belong in women's restrooms then cis women. Also, in every poll I find about this trans issues, they all have one thing in common. Regardless of percentage results or fluctuation, cis women are more likely to support trans rights than cis men. According to a poll, 59% of men support banning trans women in women's sports compared to 46% of women. 29% of men oppose banning trans women in women's sports compared to 34% of women. Men are more likely to agree with gender critical views then women.

r/GenderCynical, a sub meant to document and refute illogical GC arguments, was founded by a cis woman. I used to post there regularly on one of my Reddit accounts. Everyday Feminism was founded by Sandra Kim, an East Asian cis woman. She is the president of the site. She even wrote an article titled What Cis Folk Have In Common With Trans Folk. BabyCenter is a pregnancy and birth forum. The users there totally support transgender people, and will quickly call you the T-slur and shut you down if you express gender critical views. Visit the Debate Team and Bargain Hunters boards for proof.

[–]BiologyIsReal 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Also, how can I be silencing natal women when I'm a natal woman myself?

You're admiting in this very comment how you want the women you disagree with to be silenced. Also do NOT use the T-slur here.

40% is still a large amount of women to dismiss. You are telling all those women they should ignore their own boundaries only because you think so.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

You're admiting in this very comment how you want the women you disagree with to be silenced.

I do not want women and men I disagree with to be silenced. Moreover, it is literally impossible to silence people. Yes, most major social media sites do not allow gender critical views, but you can still find then on Ovarit, Saidit, Spinster, Women Are Human, Feminist Current, Mumsnet, Odysee, personal blogs etc. if you google it's not hard to find gender critical views. That said people can choose what media they consume. I personally don't trust news sources that misgender people or post anti-trans views. If Wikipedia began misgendering people in their articles, I would stop donating to them. Likewise, you are free not to use Wikipedia if you don't agree with this. On r/socialjustice101 a user posted a thread titled Uber sued by DOJ overcharging disabled people and in the OP linked to an article from BBC. A user replied "Is there another place I can read about this that isn't a [T-slur] Island mouthpiece?" and OP replied to the user an NPR article with the same information.

Also do NOT use the T-slur here.

I did not use the T-slur. I merely said that's what users on BabyCenter would call you if you express gender critical views.

40% is still a large amount of women to dismiss. You are telling all those women they should ignore their own boundaries only because you think so.

60% of women is an even larger amount of women to dismiss.

[–]BiologyIsReal[M] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

LOL, since when the BBC is a T*** mouthpiece? Just further proof than QT finds anything "transphobic".

I already told you I'm tired, I'm not going to keep arguing.

And yes, redact out the T-slur or I'm going to delete both comments.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

On October 26, 2021 the BBC wrote an article titled "We're being pressured into sex by some trans women". It caused a lot of controversy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22We%27re_being_pressured_into_sex_by_some_trans_women%22

[–]againstpedorights 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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