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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How would it be? It’s part of you like any other piece of you.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Every other facet of identity I can think of is always based on something that people experience or exist as in some way. If it’s not something you can exist as, it’s a "subculture" or community with people who dress/look/like etc similarly. If you’d have said having dysphoria was a part of your identity I’d get that, but I don’t get how identifying as your understanding of the gender/sex opposite your own is in any way similar to other facets of identity. Maybe I misunderstood what you meant, it just seems like the concept of gender identity runs counter to every other sense of identity I can think of.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

To me it’s always been intrinsic to dysphoria, but it seems there’s a push now for non dysphoric trans people as a thing. I don’t get it but I don’t want to be dismissive.

Even without dysphoria I suppose society teaches you at an early age what you should like. If you like what one gender is supposed to like and are constantly bombarded in formative development with that message isn’t it conceivable that you would develop a core facet of identity based on that environment?

[–]Juniperius 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wait, is dysphoria because of a brain structure or is it because of adults policing their children's clothing preferences? Or is it whichever is convenient for your argument at that precise moment? Or are you saying that the amount of white matter in the brain determines which clothes someone is destined to like?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I personally believe it’s from both. A structural predilection and societal pressure to conform to identity contrary to interest. But it needs more research.