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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

No one is debating what male and female are. We are talking past each other unsung different definitions for man or woman. This is definitionally a semantic argument.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You would have to prove that there is a different way to use those words and you haven’t. You have to show that it is reasonable and logical to use your definition. You have never done that. It’s always just about your personal feelings and beliefs and the fact that a small community of people who have the same issue as you pretend words have meanings they don’t have.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

There is obviously a different way to use those words as they are used by trans people and trans inclusive people. You don’t need proof to know trans men call themselves men and trans women call themselves women. Since there is an entire group that uses it different than you then your argument based on only one definition is then a matter of definitional disagreement. It’s not a question of facts because No one believes any physical thing is different. You are disagreeing over definitions.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

People being inclusive doesn’t mean the words meaning changed. It means people are being nice to you.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

People using words different does mean their meaning changed. That’s how meanings change.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

No. It means people use words incorrectly when it suits them lol.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Large scale alternate usage is how definitions form.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sure. Prove that this usage is large scale?

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Define large scale. Every trans person plus all trans inclusive non trans people is an appreciable number by most standards.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is it a huge number in comparison to the people who don’t use the fake meanings?