Qt/tra, how does identity form?

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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I never claimed to be fixed. I claimed to be non suicidal and functional as a result of transition. I’m not mentally healthy but the machine is running even if it’s a slapdash repair.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

So transition made you personally feel somewhat better. It hasn’t done anything to help with your mental health otherwise being called a man wouldn’t be an issue for you. We end up here all the time. I don’t deny that transition helps alleviate some discomfort, it did nothing to actually help the main aspect of your mental illness- you literally think you’re something tou cannot ever be. That’s a disservice imo. We’ve talked about this over and over. My position won’t change. If trans people can’t understand they are the sex and gender they were born and transition was purely to alleviate dysphoria, they have been done a disservice by the medical community.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

You are literally saying it was a disservice to save my life. Think about that.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Nope. I’m saying they did you a disservice by not helping you understand the reality of the situation. You can still transition and understand that it only means something to you and other people don’t have to and likely won’t see you as a woman.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I understand that perfectly well. Me specifically I imagine almost no one thinks of me as a “true” woman. Though I think that’s mostly to do with the fact that I look like an ogre.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

You clearly don’t understand that perfectly well. On the other thread you’re arguing about the meaning of words. If You understood perfectly well you’d not be tying to pretend that man and woman have different meanings that are all accurate and acceptable.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Talking about me and respectable trans people are 2 different things. If you are lucky enough to transition early and pass you can find actual acceptance and have a good life. Someone like me? The best we got is pity and getting by, but it beats pretending to be a man.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Regardless of how any trans person looks they aren’t the sex they wish they were. It’s not about looks it’s about facts.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The way society treats us it’s very much about looks. That’s why so many gc posts are just mocking trans women’s appearances.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sure… that’s still not at all the point. The point. Is no matter how any trans person is treated, they aren’t the sex they wish they were. The point is fact is always there no matter what.