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[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Asking someone to analyze something isn’t equivalent to demanding a change.

If someone tells you they don’t like trains and you ask why it isn’t a demand to change, but a search for analysis.

If your answer is “It takes to long with all the stops so isn’t convenient for my lifestyle” that’s not something anyone is saying change. If the answer is “because poor people ride them and they are diseased” that’s a problematic belief worth addressing and even after changing that problematic belief you may still not like trains for non problematic reasons.

The genital preference thing is similar. If you say you are in to women but not trans women and someone asks why, that’s not demanding change. If the answer is “because I’m not attracted to penises or neovaginas” that’s not problematic. If the answer is “because trans women are men” that is a problematic belief that they may ask you to address, but also leaves open the possibility that you wouldn’t be attracted to trans women even if you addressed that bigoted belief (that trans women are men). They aren’t saying you should sleep with trans women, they are saying that if you exclude trans women you should examine why to see if there is a bigoted belief behind it. No one is saying change, they are saying analyze yourself to see if you have bigoted beliefs which that preference might be indicative of.

The goal isn’t to change the preference. That’s the difference.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

If someone tells you they don’t like trains and you ask why it isn’t a demand to change, but a search for analysis.

If your answer is “It takes to long with all the stops so isn’t convenient for my lifestyle” that’s not something anyone is saying change. If the answer is “because poor people ride them and they are diseased” that’s a problematic belief worth addressing and even after changing that problematic belief you may still not like trains for non problematic reasons

Wow, it sounds like you know a lot of trainsphobes. That's too bad. Most people I know really like trains. Lots of people are huge fans of trains, life size actual trains, scale-model trains, toy trains like Brio and and fictional trains like in The Little Engine That Could and Thomas, Percy and the gang. Many adults including big-name celebrities like Rod Stewart and Jools Holland have extensive model train collections. Some of the biggest entertainment draws are model train exhibitions. Back in the 90s, I used to see David Byrne at the holiday season model train displays at the NY Botanical Gardens, Citi Corp building in midtown Manhattan, and in the lower levels of the World Trade Center - which my son back then referred to as "the World Train Center." Millions, even billions, of people love trains. You could even say they/we are all on board...

https://youtu.be/jd34Ioye5v4

https://youtu.be/hHkKJfcBXcw

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What?