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[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The thing is, when you and peaking respond, I do get it. I don’t always agree, but I understand what you’re saying and where you’re coming from. The responses you both offer always acknowledge what gc or even people who aren’t gc but aren’t tras are always pointing out and you seem to be able to take women and our concerns/needs/feelings/differences into account. And that makes a huge difference in the quality of discussion as well as the ability to actually discuss anything at all.

But- and I don’t say this to disrespect any other posters here- you both come across as significantly more self aware and less ego driven (using ego in every sense of the word) than the other transwomen on the sub and the loudest of the online trans community. There’s a self awareness and societal awareness you both have that, in my experience a lot of transwomen from before (that “before” when this wasn’t a prevalent social and political discussion and TW and TM were allowed to be acknowledged as trans and not the sex/gender they transitioned to appear as) have that the woke trans community lacks. (I’m not trying to call either of you old lol, I always assumed the three of us are relatively close in age)

I understand why the woke trans community gets upset, but I think it’s because they know their logic is faulty and they’re defying fact. There’s hostility because you can’t convince everyone of something that just isn’t true. I know my comments can be cold and I can come across as if I don’t care (or apparently that I hate trans people…) but I do appreciate that if qt feels oppressed and rejected or invalidated by society it can’t feel good to constantly feel like you have to justify your sense of self to others, so I get the combativeness. The problem is that the issue is bigger than just a sense of self. It is impacting other people and their rights and safety, so they kind of do owe us (general society) an explanation that we can understand.