GC: What are "sex-based" rights?

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Being treated as a man is being treated as being an adult human biological male. I doubt the coworkers starting advising the man-identifying female to start using condoms to prevent impregnating female sexual partners or said birth control wouldn’t be needed in case this man-identifying female was into males.

When I said "treated like men" I meant being treated the way men are typically treated in society. They are less likely to be sexually harassed, they are taken more seriously at work, are paid higher wages and other men feel comfortable saying sexist things about women to them.

Visibly male woman-identifying males are treated as the subgroup of men (adult human biological males) they are.

There is no such thing as "woman-identifying males". They are women and if they don't pass they are treated like women. For instance, Lauren Jackson was punched in the jaw over 10 times because she was using the women's restroom. I don't know any cis man harassed for using the restroom.

https://katu.com/news/local/man-who-beat-transgender-woman-in-bathroom-charged-with-bias-crime

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When I said "treated like men" I meant being treated the way men are typically treated in society. They are less likely to be sexually harassed, they are taken more seriously at work, are paid higher wages and other men feel comfortable saying sexist things about women to them.

If a feminine gay man gets sexually harassed, is talked down to and paid less for being gay and feminine, is he treated like a woman? If a butch lesbian is treated seriously but men are openly sexist around her and wants her to join in with the sexist talk, is she treated like a man?

There is no such thing as "woman-identifying males".

You don’t think there exist biological males who identify as women? Are biological males like Contapoints just lying about their gender identities then?

They are women

Adult humans of the male reproductive sex meet the definition of men, not women. But as you obviously refer to something else with the letter combination "woman" it would be helpful if you would translate it into with words we both agree about the meaning. Is it a gender identity (i.e a large percentage of population would be neither men nor women as they lack gender identities), is it a hormone level (i.e pre HRT you would call man-identifying females women) or is it femininity (i.e only feminine people are women) or something else?

if they don't pass they are treated like women

You have complained about woman-identifying males being seen threatening, even in your eyes, is that something you see as woman treatment?

For instance, Lauren Jackson was punched in the jaw over 10 times because she was using the women's restroom.

Again, even in your eyes, is being punched in the jaw for using the women's restroom "woman treatment"? Is that how you think women are typically treated for using the female bathroom? This man-looking biological male was punched for being seen as man, even the your linked link states that as the reason.

I don't know any cis man harassed for using the restroom.

How many of them are regularly using the female restroom like the man-looking biological male in your link?