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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 6 fun4 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 6 fun -  (5 children)

Yes. How how about words or phrases that only exist to be derogatory are banned? I take back allowing "TERF" because then it would follow to allow any slur, and I do appreciate this sub being moderated to keep things civil and functional. But "front hole" doesn't exist to insult, however much it does insult many of us. That distinction gets to the heart of what we're here to debate.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But "front hole" doesn't exist to insult

I actually would disagree. In all of its possible and previous usages (men describing women as commodity, gay men mocking women, etc) it was used as derogatory phrase. And I don't believe that it was "re-claimed" at any point - I haven't even heard anyone speaking about it at all.

Even for transmen it is used mostly in derogatory way. For transwomen it is used "girldick" or "woman's penis", not "front pillar". Yet, for transmen it is not "man vulva" or "man vagina", but something else - something that previously was used as way to dehumanize women. And even cosmetic penis for transmen is often called "phallus" and not "penis", unlike when it is said about transwomen and their cosmetic vulva.

[–]worried19 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Some trans men use it to refer to their own vaginas during sex and also in general. It's not derogatory when used in that manner.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, but why only them, while for transwomen it is fine to use "girl dick"? Why transmen are pushed to not use "man's vagina", while transwomen are pushing for everyone to use "women's penis"?

[–]worried19 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I don't know. I think some trans women use "clit" for their penis and not "girl dick." I'm not sure if there's actually an accepted term.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I haven't said they are calling it "girl dick", I said it is transwomen who are doing it and are fine with naming their penis as penis and in general using male-specific words to describe themselves and just adding "women's X" to them, while transmen are pushed away from using female-specific words for themselves. Thought, rarely I still see "man's vagina" - but mostly it is using ones who are harassing gay men to sleep with them.