All: Disclosure and Consent

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[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (17 children)

Its a preference for one term over another when both refer to the same things. Semantics

[–]BiologyIsReal 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Oh, do you mean like how trans identified people don't want to be refered by their sex? You and others think that being called a "man" is an unforgivable sin despite that for most people is a neutral term. Yet calling a vagina a "front hole" despite how dehumanizing and anatomically inaccurated it is is all fine and dandy.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

Nah your term is representative of your ideology which is inaccurate whereas my term is just what some people prefer to call their own anatomy. Also front hole is a million times better than a word that means “sheath”

[–]BiologyIsReal 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

I like how "my" terms are the only ones representative of an inaccurated ideology...

How are babies made, Heim? Which combination of gametes produces a zygote?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (13 children)

So people without gametes are sexless now Sloane?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

You weren’t talking to me and that’s not even what they asked.

Why don’t you actually answer the questions you’re asked instead of deflecting?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (11 children)

My mistake. I did answer. The fact that gametes don’t determine sexual status is clear from people who don’t produce gametes. The fact that an egg cell and a sperm cell are usually required for a zygote to form is not proof that sex is binary, because sex is about anatomy not just gametes

[–]BiologyIsReal 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

The fact that gametes don’t determine sexual status is clear from people who don’t produce gametes.

The fact that some people can't produce gametes doesn't meant their bodies aren't built around the prodution of them.

The fact that an egg cell and a sperm cell are usually required for a zygote to form is not proof that sex is binary

Excuse me, are you saying that there have been babies that were born from any other combination than a egg and a sperm cells? Provide proof.

because sex is about anatomy not just gametes

Where do you think gametes come from?

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (4 children)

Then we’re basing sex off of anatomy and not gametes, and anatomy occurs along a spectrum.

Not babies, but human zygotes have been produced via cloning for scientific purposes, before being destroyed.

Anatomy, which is actually what determines sex status.

[–]BiologyIsReal 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are only two kinds of gonads, which produce the two respective gametes, and two development pathways.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

How are babies made?

Which combination of gametes produces a zygote?

You did not answer those questions. You answered something nobody asked.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

I absolutely answered it, you just don’t like the answer

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t see the answer anywhere. Honestly. Can you paste it or tag me under it?