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[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You can disagree if you want but life sucks for out trans people. If you want happiness your shoot for stealth. Otherwise you transition to numb the pain of Dysphoria and deal with the fact that society will see you as a freak and noone will ever love you. That’s life for trans people. You hit the lotto and go stealth or you have a shitty life period.

Huh? Jan Morris, who went trans in midlife in the early 70s after fathering 5 children & died in November at age 94, said that nothing untoward happened to Jan coz of being trans & out. Morris got a best-selling book & many awards out of being trans. Jan's wife who married Jan as James stayed with Jan to the end of Jan's life, raised their children single-handedly & was handmaiden to all of Jan's career & personal ambitions.

Renee Richards, who went trans age 43 in the early 70s after being married to a woman & fathering a child & is now 88, seems to have lived a happy, fulfilled life since then. In 1975, Richards sued for the right to play women's professional tennis - & won right off the bat.

Jennifer Finney Boylan, now age 63, has only gotten accolades, awards, writing gigs, a column in the NY Times & tenure at an Ivy League US university since becoming openly trans. Boylan's wife from before Boylan went trans, & the mother of their two children, also has stuck by Boylan & been Boylan's primary support throughout. But Boylan's wife has always done Boylan's bidding by never daring to put herself or her own dreams or ambitions on equal footing with her trans spouse.

Debbie Hayton's wife & children have stuck by Hayton, putting their own feelings aside so as not to interfere with Hayton's brave & stunning narrative.

The NY Times recently profiled a person who lived until 60 as a man & who in COVID lockdown came out as a trans woman. The reaction from this person's employer was a major promotion - & applause & support from everyone else in this person's social & professional circles.

I could list dozens of others like this. You are talking shite.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

You have no concept of life for the average trans women.

[–]MarkTwainiac 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I provided examples of specific people whose life stories can be looked up for anyone to see. I can provide the names of many more "trans women" who have not been relegated to "shitty lives" where no one loves them coz they are trans. On the contrary, these persons have been supported by their wives, children, parents, friends, work colleagues; applauded; showered with praise; catapulted into positions of power & influence; & described in the press as superior, more enlightened & "divine" beings who exist on a plane above the rest of us - all for coming out as "trans women."

By contrast, all you do is make blanket assertions with no evidence. Provide some examples, please.

Also, you seem to have no concept of what life is like for the average woman.