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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Obligatory not QT, but trans. So, I’ll start by saying a woman is an adult human female. I feel like this is many trans people think it is too even if don’t want to say so. They feel like it’s a fiction that helps them or other feel better so they will support it even if they don’t really believe it. A transwoman might feel like they are a woman inside or want to be one, but, for the most part, that can really only be about sex stereotypes. I guess a male person could really, really feel like we’re meant to become pregnant and give birth for instance and that could be something that wasn’t a stereotype only female can give birth. I don’t think that is the usually what people refer to when they say they have a gender identity though. If it was, they could feel that way, but they still wouldn’t be a women for feeling that way because it’s not how their body is.

If someone passes as a woman or girl (female), then that is how they are treated in society whether they are actually female or not. I feel like this is what being a male transsexual used to be about it doesn’t really need the definition of woman to change. I guess things like being about to change your birth certificate after surgery helped, and I know GC is against that, it still seemed less demanding. The “trans rights” stuff is for people who don’t pass to make it to where they are included in the category anyway. I don’t think it works though because you aren’t treated like a female if you don’t pass. You may be treated super nice and people may use your pronouns, but that’s a different than actually being seen as a woman. I hope this makes sense.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You make sense, and it’s nice to have some insight into what may be going on behind the scenes for some caught up in QT and their own dysmorphia.

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It makes sense in that you have presented the one and only thing I can agree on having in common with transwomen:

If someone passes as a woman or girl (female), then that is how they are treated in society whether they are actually female or not.

Arguments to shared hormones, girlhood, emotions, and most especially PMS offend me, but sure here is something we have in common and can work on. However, it only applies to transwomen who pass, who are still the minority (this might change with the amount of childhood transition but I'm not sure).

Do you think I have anything in common with non-passing transwomen? Just curious.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I don’t think so. Like, you might have something in common with an individual non-passing transwoman (or a man for that matter), but nothing about them being a transwoman means that you will or that the groups automatically share something.