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[–]MarkTwainiac 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Initially, I was going to say that I feel I have things in common with people with whom I share ideas, outlook and experiences. But as for looks, I was going to say that I have never seen, nor looked for, persons in public life who "match" me physically or in presentation. Because, I was going to add, I learned long ago that other people - and the world at large - are not mirrors.

But now that I've though about it a bit more, I realize my initial response would have been a whole lot of hooey. Total bullshit, in fact.

Of course, I do very much notice other people's clothing, hairstyles and general presentation and affect - and I definitely take notice of, and initially am drawn to, people with whom I share a similar taste in clothing, hairstyles, general "look" and attitude toward "gender."

But just because I share such superficial aspects with someone doesn't mean I relate to, "identify with" or admire them as people.

Until I got old and my looks, body & health all went to hell in a big way, I was pretty happy with the looks nature gave me and my own personal sense of style - and pretty relaxed about my "gender" presentation (an issue I once believed I never gave much thought to but I now realize I was lying about). And now that I am getting close to the end of my life, I do sometimes think that if I got a chance to do life over and could choose a new body and "look," I'd go with something along the lines of these people, whose looks are different to mine yet similar in "gender" and overall style and attitude:

Chrissie Hynde in 1980: https://youtu.be/GLQRZgfASyc

Bryan Ferry in 1979: https://youtu.be/v6sosLhIcL4

Stella Tennant: https://www.vogue.co.uk/gallery/stella-tennant-in-vogue

But that's for physical looks. Clearly, my ideas about other people's looks that I think would suit me best are heavily influenced by the fact that I am am tall white woman with dark hair and "strong," sharp facial features - and that I don't have much imagination, LOL. Obviously, I really was bullshitting when for a moment I told myself I don't see other people as mirrors! Oh the lies we tell ourselves...

But that's all on the surface. When I think of he public figures I most admire, what draws me to them is the "content of their character" and the way they've lived their lives, not their looks or "gender" or personal dress and grooming style. Which brings me to public figures like these, who in no way could I ever dream of matching. I wouldn't even come close. https://youtu.be/PyfOrbO0xf4 https://youtu.be/Brp8Va8XVQw https://youtu.be/9a3PMPZakNE https://youtu.be/vU0jtxf7-vo

Also Dr. Farrokhrou Parsa:https: https://iranian.com/2005/05/09/a-woman-for-all-seasons/

And this woman: https://youtu.be/xIjzvTObzgA https://youtu.be/oVLyARq0n0I

Thanks for starting this thread, OP. You've made me think, and made me see things some things about myself I was in denial about and didn't want to see. Such as the fact that I am much more vain and attuned to & concerned about superficial appearances than I like to pretend.

Edited to add the two Joan Baez videos.