QT: questions about transphobia (But gc feel free to add questions)

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

-1. Because you say so?

-2. If you’re a female attracted to females, even ones that look male, you are not straight. If you mean you can look at a passing Tm and find her attractive, but wouldn’t date her, I’d see that as straight, finding someone handsome objectively is not the same as being open to dating and sleeping with them. If you are open to having/have had sex with a female, and you are a female yourself, that’s literally not straight. That’s the whole point of my question ans once again, all you do is repeat yourself. That’s not an answer, it’s not an explanation.

-3. Because you say so?

Then I say a male using female pronouns and calling himself a woman is extremely misogynistic. It’s fact, I guess. Because I said it is.

-4. I think you should have to be an adult.

-5. Why are females not allowed to have their own spaces? Bathrooms are more than stalls, there are shared spaces in many bathrooms, and there are videos of TW masturbating in women’s rooms allover the internet, as well as a popular interview of two older TW admitting freely that they listen to women peeing in the stalls next to them. Women should be able to have spaces where they are free from male creeps who do those things, among other reasons. But I shouldn’t have to even offer a reason, females were given sex segregated spaces, they shouldn’t have to explain why they want to keep them. It’s not right for males to take them away by invading those spaces. Period. And you don’t answer questions by asking more questions. You answer questions with statements.

-6. Again, because you say so? You can’t prove that TW are women, and homosexual literally means same sex, whereas trans doesn’t mean you change sex, it means you modify your body to hopefully appear to be the opposite sex. So both statements you call transphobic are actually true.

-7. Again- you pick and choose which gc comments you want to represent what gc people think. And we don’t all think that. As evident by the gc posters here. None of us (maybe one or two exceptions here and there, sure. But that’s true for qt as well on certain subjects) say those things. Yet you’ve decided that’s what we all think. That’s ridiculous.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

masturbating in women’s rooms

  1. This is what society agreed.

  2. Trans men aren't females, except in the biological sense. They get treated as men by society.

  3. This is what most of us agreed on.

  4. Then you should have to be an adult to get a tattoo, body piercing or drive a car.

  5. I am a cis female. I see no need for those spaces. If someone is behaving like a creep, man, woman, no matter who, you report it. If they are not harassing you, they have the right to be there.

  6. Homosexual can also mean being attracted to people who appear the same sex.

  7. I didn't don't think all GCs, say that. Just the majority. Maybe if you can interpret those comments differently for me I may change my opinion.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  1. Apparently, not all of society agrees. Most of society agrees that TW aren’t women and TM aren’t men, so you may not want to go with that.

  2. Transmen are female, otherwise they wouldn’t be trans. And only passing and stealth TM are “treated like males”. If trans people were generally treated and perceived as the sex they wish to be perceived as, they’d not be doing all the bitching about how society sees and treats them that they do. And they’d not be a marginalized group, none of what’s going on in regards to gender ideology etc would be happening.

  3. No. This is what tras agree on. Not most people. And I didn’t ask if it’s agreed on, I asked why it’s transphobic. “Because we agree it is” is not an answer as to why

  4. In my experience you do have to be an adult to get a tattoo or a piercing, some times parents can give consent to a piercing, but piercings are not permanent, nor do they cause damage or inhibit development. There are strict guidelines to teens driving. And anyone can be irresponsible or get in an accident behind the wheel, not just teens. These are shitty comparisons.

  5. Oh! I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you got to make decisions for all females, even the ones who don’t feel safe or comfortable in spaces meant to keep them safe and comfortable. As long as you’re okay with it I guess any other female in the world just has to deal. I must have missed the announcement that GenderBEnder speaks for all females and makes decisions for us all.

  6. That’s not what homosexual means. It means same sex attracted. And even if it meant “appears to be same sex”, once clothes come off, trans people are distinguishable from the sex they wish they were, so they’d no longer appear to be that sex.

  7. Just because some people think that, doesn’t mean most people do. It’s that fucking simple. I don’t know how else to word this so you get it.