Both: Early childhood socialization and what causes people to become trans

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[–]anxietyaccount8 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think that these kids maybe have an identification with the opposite sex peer group, or their opposite sex parent. And this is what is causing their dysphoria. They want to imitate the group of people that they identify with.

As for those who have a severe dysphoria about their body, it seems linked to homosexuality, in which case they may still want to be trans as adults. After all, many feminine gay men or butch lesbians have body dysphoria as adults, so they're kind of HSTS-Lite (in my opinion). Many on the Butch Lesbians subreddit want to have their breasts removed. But...again, it could be because they don't want men to see them as feminine. Without pressure from society, would they really want to look like trans men? I don't know...it would be hard to figure this out

Basically, if GCers were somehow able to eliminate gender roles, I do think less people would identify as trans, or have body dysphoria. But it's hard to know, because there's many reasons for trans identity. Based on the way I see gender, I would have expected most trans people to be bi. In reality, it seems most were HSTS, but then there are AGPs, and then there's that entire crisis with teenage girls having ROGD, and nowadays there are even MORE reasons... So, dysphoria can manifest itself in different ways, maybe in a GC society, it still couldn't be stopped?

[–]worried19[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think dysphoria could be dramatically reduced in a GC society, but most likely not fully stopped.

Many on the Butch Lesbians subreddit want to have their breasts removed. But...again, it could be because they don't want men to see them as feminine.

Good point. Breasts have so many social and sexual connotations, it's hard to argue that people can view them as a neutral body part. In the first place, they're seen as the pinnacle of femininity. Which is obviously something masculine women don't want to represent. And second, they're sexualized by men. So for a masculine lesbian, that's a double whammy.