Both: what is the source/origin of the claim "trans-womxyn are women"? The DSM-5/icd-11 don't make the claim, I can't find it anywhere within sociology or psychology, not even within queer theory. Is it just a hashtag?

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But "literally everything about them" is shared by people that even you regard as men, including some trans-womxyn, like Debbie Hayton. There is no reason to distinguish between trans-womxyn who you disagree with from trans-womxyn who share your ideology.

When are you going to argue that trans-womxyn you disagree with are a third category rather than men? If a trans-woman's sex is not a third category, then what on earth would be the justification be to place them in a third category?

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But "literally everything about them" is shared by people that even you regard as men, including some trans-womxyn, like Debbie Hayton. There is no reason to distinguish between trans-womxyn who you disagree with from trans-womxyn who share your ideology.

Dysphoria. If you call yourself a man you can’t be dysphoric. So you aren’t trans.

I’m open to the possibility of third category if accompanied with massive social change. But trans women who disagree with me are either trans or not. Are they disphoric or not? I’m not arguing for a third category.

If a trans-woman's sex is not a third category, then what on earth would be the justification be to place them in a third category?

I don’t understand what you are asking here.