Discuss with just facts?

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

As for your question about the rise in bisexuality- I did address this. I said I think the difference is not that there are more bisexuals. I think there are more people comfortable with being open about their bisexuality, because it’s less stigmatized. I think that society can become more accepting and open to things than before, homosexuals and heterosexuals are more willing to accept bisexuality than before, so of course more bisexuals are open about it. Society progressing and being more accepting doesn’t mean that people are influenced to behave sexually in a way that’s counter to how they understand their sexuality, it means that people can be open about their sexuality as it comes naturally to them. We see this not just with sexuality, but also with “kinks” and the type of sex (be it positions or role playing or things like that, not hetero/homo sexuality to be clear) people are having. We aren’t all into bdsm just because 50 Shades of Gray made it a hot topic to discuss and read about. However, 50 Shades of Gray (despite being horribly written) did help some people figure out that they personally were into BDSM. So yea, media can help people discover things about their sexuality or sexual preferences, it doesn’t mean that media determines/influences it. People are exposed to all types of ideas about sex through media- they gravitate towards what feels natural to them, not what they see most frequently or what they see portrayed positively. Big Love was a pretty successful show (it’s also really good, if anyone reading this is looking for a new show and hasn’t seen it)- we didn’t see a spike in polygamy because of it.

Eta- I, a bisexual, have never been traumatized and really didn’t watch much TV as a child. When I did, it was usually older shows made before I was born, and the shows from the early 90’s where being gay was a punchline and not prominent. I was a huge reader- never read about bi or homosexuality at the time. I realized I was bisexual when I developed a crush on my closest friend... and her brother. I was 11. She was 12, she didn’t assault me or influence me. Her brother was 14 and barely acknowledged me. I had never seen bisexuality portrayed anywhere. I asked my father about my feelings. He explained different sexualities to me. So I guess it’s because of my dad that I’m bi?

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I've watched you since back on the debate sub on reddit, always writing really long missives and engaging with people for days after you said you were done. Usually because you couldn't refute a point and intellectually spew out all over the place (as you're doing here) because you're appealing to many attacks without the ability to refute my point. You've gotten emotional about this - why else are you writing all this all-over-the-place stuff because you can't prove that sexuality is innate - you cannot do that, and there is evidence sexuality changes and is affected by environment. I'll end here - I know you'll respond because you can't help yourself. You spend way to much time in these forums and online, and it shows in your desperation for engagement. I shouldn't engage you further. Good luck.

[–]VioletRemihomosexual female (aka - lesbian) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And how about actually adressing the point instead of attacking the person, lmao?

[–]loveSloaneDebate King[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao that’s a long way to say “I give up”

Nothing I wrote was emotional. I pointed out things that you can’t refute and it’s odd that you’d say I’m the one unable to refute things. You’ve offered nothing to refute while going out of your way to avoid addressing what at least two people have been saying. And somehow you think that means we/I can’t? Okay then buddy.

I think it’s odd to be on a forum and try to take a cheap shot at someone for also being on that forum. I wasn’t even participating here until a month ago. I’m quarantined with a child who’s too young for school and my husband, that’s it. Our city is locked down and has been for almost a year. Of course I have time lol

It’s hella weird that you’ve been “watching” me for a year 😂

But since you were watching me, you’d have seen that most people on that sub seemed to agree with me and think that I made sense, so it’s a weird flex to claim that I couldn’t refute anything.

Interesting, that you waited until now to say all of this. Almost like you just don’t have any way to dismiss what I said so you dismissed me.