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[–]DistantGlimmer[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah, reading the shit on the old TERFIsaSlur group as one of the main things that peaked me into completely not believing that transwomen were women or that they were oppressed people.. I mean women can be vicious to other women in their own ways but there is a certain horrible way that misogynist males talk to the women they hate with very particular speech patterns and male TRAs emulate that perfectly.

You're also right that while I've had some cruel and nasty things said to me by TRAs I've never had the personal and violent threats women get from them. They have a special hatred for women who disagree with them.

They want to believe they are exactly like women just because they claim to want that but they put no work into actually fighting their male socialization. The transwomen I've talked to that do fight their male socialization are very different but they, unfortunately, seem like the minority.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I feel like actually listening to transwomen, especially the ones online, is like the thing peaks so many people.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Absolutely. I went from just not thinking TWAW to active anger and frustration.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I sort of lost my belief in gender identity (the way trans people use it) once I was actually in trans communities and realized most transwomen behaved like narcissistic straight men (and transmen like women). And that was like close to 20 years ago, before “cis” and transgender replacing transsexual. It’s only gotten worse since then. 😣