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I don’t have a problem with separating us from natal women generally but we’ve already talked about how lumping is with men from a legal standpoint leaves trans women without necessary rights and protections.

We always circle back here but the number of trans women may not stop us from asking for separate spaces but it absolutely stops us from getting them. That kind of a retrofit is extremely expensive. No one will pay it absent a legal mandate and we will never get a legal mandate, I mean that’s exactly why we were excluded from the ADA, no one will spend that kind of money on us or accept legislation that requires it. The push has to come from non trans people or it will never happen. It’s much more acceptable to the general public to alter limits on current facilities than force people to build new ones. Money is king to the us voting public.Even of all trans resources were unified 100 percent to third spaces to the level of ignoring protecting us on every other legal from it wouldn’t pass and we have jobs and housing to worry about still not to mention trenders who are full integration or die who would fight against their own interest. It has to come from a real power block or it won’t pass.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

All I meant was that, even if transwomen Arent classed with men, I don’t think it’s right or makes sense to class them with women. I think that is unfair and potentially harmful to women. As for the rest, I don’t know enough about it to comment, I just don’t think the absence of trans only spaces warrants compromising female spaces