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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that the problem is that when we can tell, we can’t say or do anything about it. I think women and girls should be allowed to tell any male they observe in their space to remove themselves. That doesn’t mean that women and girls would tell all nonpassing transwomen to leave, it means when we do tell them (for whatever reason it may be) they leave.

This is such an important point! I feel like giving any males permission to be in female spaces makes it where women and girls feel like they can’t say anything if they are uncomfortable. If it was like how it used to be which is that no one is given that permission, but some small number of transwomen still do because they pass and can’t really use the other space, that seems better. Maybe not perfect, but at least it makes it where someone would think about whether they would draw attention or make others uncomfortable. I feel like that is the nice thing to do anyway, but clearly not everyone does. I didn’t support the North Carolina bathroom bill because it didn’t make sense and couldn’t really be enforced (and also birth certificates and identification can be amended), but I also don’t think we should be giving people an irrevocable right to use the bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity. I feel like we agree. 😊