GC: If GC achieves it’s goal around trans issues, what happens to trans people?

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not GC obviously but let’s hit some highlights so far.

The rights of half the population matter more to me than the outcome for trans people if those rights are upheld.

You heard it here first. Trans rights don’t matter because they are a minority.

Genuinely dysphoric adults get intensive treatment to alleviate symptoms without the general public being expected to play a part in it.

I may be overreaching but this seems like transition is illegal, which is monstrous on a deep and permeating level.

Absolutely no recourse for people misgendering you, if being properly gendered is allowed at all.

Consequently, non-binary identification would no longer be recognized as valid.

I’m not even non-binary but that seems pretty awful for them.

I would absolutely rather be dead than live un the world Sloan and catbug are pushing.

Ice, glimmer, and Omina I might live but would certainly have to give up on sobriety.

[–]IceColdLover 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I’m not even non-binary but that seems pretty awful for them.

Non-binary people and the ideology they uphold makes life extraordinarily more difficult for gender-nonconforming people who simply want to live their lives as they are. A girl likes playing football and skateboarding and doesn't want to paint her nails? Here come the hordes of people now pressuring her to identify as non-binary or a trans man. A boy wants to paint his nails and still call himself a boy? No, now he is told he is a self-hating non-binary person who hasn't accepted himself yet. It's offensive, ridiculous, and regressive.

For non-binary identity to be valid, it means that "women" must all behave one way, "men" must behave another, and anyone who is not strictly masculine or feminine in their interests, tastes, preferences, and style is a third gender. While I have empathy for transsexuals and people with gender dysphoria around their biological sex, I actually believe non-binary identity, like self-ID trans ideology where dysphoria is not prerequisite, is founded upon a very oppressive, conservative, and regressive mentality around what is expected of people because of their sex, as well as a pathological, narcissistic need for attention.

So while my ideal world does allow for trans people who are transsexual and experience dysphoria around their sex to exist and live, even legally and societally as their preferred sex, because I believe in creating a compassionate society where no one is discriminated against for factors outside of their control, anything that is based on vague feelings of "gender" around sexist stereotypes would no longer be recognized as an identity that anyone else is bound to respect.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What about non-binary people who suffer from Dysphoria. For instance I know a non-binary person who suffered from physical dysphoria over many body features and has undergone hormone therapy but not their genitals and didn't feel like they identified as a woman totally?

[–]IceColdLover 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I feel differently if they actually experience dysphoria but that is not the majority of cases.