GC: Legal “sex change“, Is there room for compromise?

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks for your comment!

I worry about the way things are now because it feels like trans people are able to change identification with doing anything other than saying they identify that way. This is a scary situation for everyone. I’m hoping to discuss ways to make it better where passing trans people will still be able to participate in society the way we were before to this craziness of the last decade or so. Do you think doing something like making sex no longer visible on identification (except in situations where it was important) would be more agreeable for GC?

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Is this changed sex marker something that will grant males access to female spaces? Or is it simply a cosmetic change to paperwork that still recognises sex and does not undermine sex based protections?

What is being offered in return for the things women are requested to give up or change? I’m still not seeing how women benefit and this means there is no compromise.

Everything you’re suggesting gives most protection to males who identify as women.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is being offered in return for the things women are requested to give up or change? I’m still not seeing how women benefit and this means there is no compromise.

I feel like maybe we are looking at the way things are now differently. Currently, males are legally able to use female spaces most places simply by meeting certain requirements that are usually very minimal or they are able to based on self-ID. I'm trying to think of a way we can make it where only a very small number of trans people are able to change identification or maybe even making it where no one can, but not making it as obvious so trans people can continue to live their lives. To me, that seems like gaining something and not giving anything up compared to the way things are now, but if are comparing it to total sex segregation, then it would be like giving something up.

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I see no gain there for anyone but a smaller group of men. Giving access to any males requires women give up some aspect of their public protection in that space. There’s no avoiding that fact.