Finland's result on its UBI experiment: people don't shirk work. And it increases trust, health & wellbeing

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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes and No.

UBI needs to be about much more than just markets, economies, employment, etc etc etc. It needs to be a full spectrum system and it needs to be embraced fully and there need to be protections from naysayers and exploitation, not to mention future cut-offs.

UBI needed to be implemented yesterday everywhere on Earth, but it's also potentially a trap.

UBI in the USA is impossible if they can't even "afford" to provide universal health care like every other civilized nation. Shame.

[–]Vigte 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly - it can be "utopian" or a trap - if implemented today by the people in charge, it'll be a damn trap.

Besides, before even considering UBI, (good people) would have to figure out what a dollar is worth anymore, a country needs to accurately get its M0, M1, M2, M3 sorted the fuck out and figure out a replacement for GDP - then it can start implementing policy.

Until then, obligatory

[–]jtriangle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Affording it may be non optional. They're just printing money willy nilly anyway, so they'd be able to sustain it for at least awhile in the US because global markets are so dependant on the dollar. It'd be effectively taxing other countries and paying people with that revenue.

It's unlikely to work long-term though, and we'd probably see a massive move away from the dollar if it ever were to happen.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"Non optional"? You mean they do it or everyone dies of starvation?

They'd rather let folks die than feed them and let them organize, educate themselves and rise up against the great hoarders.

[–]jtriangle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The last thing you want is the unwashed masses starving to death and getting crazy. It's not altruistic, it's to keep everyone under control.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's why they're killing them off slowly with more brainwashing propaganda than ever.

Don't forget to get your very safe and effective vaccination and 5G and low-fat processed food before going to your wage-slave job to keep you in debt rather than organizing and rising up. Also, be sure to hate "them" but never the ruling class.