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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have most of our modern technology if we had been actively engaging in eugenics for the last 80 years.

That's a wild conclusion. How can you get more intelligent, harder working people and end up worse? We would be hundreds of years ahead because only the top .1% of people actually do anything that advances society. A relatively small increase in average intelligence could push a relatively huge percentage of people into the same IQ level. If just 1% of people became innovative that would be transformative.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How can you get more intelligent, harder working people and end up worse?

Think about how much harm just one hard-working genus, Thomas Midgley, managed, and now imagine society had a hundred million of him.

Every awful invention was created by hard-working intelligent people.

  • The bankers that came up with the complex financial plans and the sub-prime mortgage scams that almost collapsed the western economies in 2008 were hard-working, intelligent people.
  • Intelligent, hard-working people re-created the 1918 Spanish Flu virus.
  • Intelligent, hard-working people spent years collecting bat viruses and then breeding them using gain of function experiments to make them more deadly and more infectious to humans in the very city where, purely coincidentally I am sure, Covid first appeared.
  • Intelligent, hard-working people invented the internet of shit. Some hard-working, intelligent person created a car and programmed it with the sentence “Road is too steep to start the installation” and thought "Job well done!".

I actually know people with IQs off the chart who are supposed to be really, really intelligent, and I'm not convinced that high intelligence is a survival trait.

High intelligence is a risk factor for many psychological and physiological disorders, including immune-system disorders and Aspergers/autism.

Very smart people tend to have much, much higher rates of mental illness, including anxiety, manic-depression, severe hypochondria, etc. Depression seems to be especially common. Often very smart people have severe personality flaws: one woman I know was used to calibrate the 200+ end of IQ scores, and she had literally no sense of humour at all. None. Could not understand the concept of "funny" at all.

It's hard to say whether sociopaths are more likely to be way above average intelligence, or whether the dumb psychopaths just get themselves killed or in jail very early. But either way, there does seem to be a correlation between being well above average in intelligence and being a sociopath/psychopath.

And of course, just because you're intelligent doesn't mean you won't act dumb. In some ways, intelligent people are the easiest to fool, or to fool themselves, because they are better at convincing themselves that what they want to be true is true even when it isn't.

only the top .1% of people actually do anything that advances society.

That's hilarious 😂 😂 😂

CC u/detty

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your absurd view on intelligence is easily destroyed by comparing societies with higher intelligence against those with lower intelligence.

But I am absolutely fine allowing you, and others like you, to suffer the consequences of your beliefs. I just want to be allowed the same right to suffer the consequences of mine. let me, and others like me, organize a parallel society that is allowed to implement eugenics policies. Let the results speak for themselves.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

comparing societies with higher intelligence against those with lower intelligence

That would be... human societies, compared to praire dogs?