Are people entitled to an opinion having only a vague understanding of the subject without having done extensive research?

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[–]Alphix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes, that is absolutely fine.

The problem arises when one admits to having literally zero knowledge about a topic and outright calling it bullshit in multiple ways and then demanding respect for their opinion.

I think that's out of bounds in civilized society. Anybody else?

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    [–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    You see, I think it is OK to form an opinion on something without having to experience something first hand. For example, I don't believe eating cow shit is a good idea, I feel this would be detrimental to my physical and mental well-being. I haven't researched this, nor read anecdotal evidence, nor would I ever eat cow shit in my life.

    I agree.

    On this basis, you consider my opinion bullshit.

    Oh are we talking about you and me? No, I don't consider your opinion bullshit on this basis. This is incorrect and a gross oversimplification.

    Do you think it is acceptable to verbally abuse people for holding an opinion you disagree with?

    Absolutely not.

    To be clear, the topic you raised recently was "semen retention". It's a topic you raise quite frequently and I find distasteful, but each to their own. Here is a link to the Reddit topic, a post of yours: https://www.reddit.com/r/Semenretention/comments/16wgmsk/comment/k2x68do/

    My alleged post history on another forum should be out of bounds, but fine. Let's say I wrote that. What's wrong with it?

    I raised disagreement in ONE SENTENCE by saying that I felt better by not retaining semen before being subjected to three days of abuse from you for having an opinion. Do you believe that a civilised society must condemn and sow hate on a person for not confirming to the religious garbage you spew about jacking off without nutting your load? You are psychotic.

    Misdirection, outright lies, fabrications, and yes, this all looks very psychotic. I wonder why. Could it be all the lies, misdirection, fabrications and demented assumptions? Hm... Let's ponder that for a second.

    I will refer the court of public opinion to my first comment in this thread. The accuser is misrepresenting the situation in order to make his illogical and flat out wrong side look better.

    Zommy, you should know better than to make shit up to slander people. But people in the Semen Retention community report that as your vitality grows through practise, people will attack you and try to bring you down by any means whatsoever. Wait... Yeah dude, you're proving this works! Thanks!

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      [–]Alphix 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      No, you have bullied me for 3 days and others have joined you into attacking me through some misguided sense of misplaced loyalty while admitting clearly and openly that they have not witnessed the disagreement at all. Then you proceeded into asking me to forget it happened while your crony kept on harassing me. I stand with truth. I will not back down from truth, NO MATTER HOW MUCH PRESSURE is applied, because that is what's wrong with the world today: people will go full lemming because it's easier than to stand for truth. I do not partake in such charades.

      I never pretended that you had to have any kind of interest in the topic or that you should even read about it. I simply offered a link in chat for discussion, to see if people might be interested. Then you proceeded to calling the entire topic absolute bullshit, in multiple ways, while admitting you know absolutely nothing about it, AND THEN DEMANDING RESPECT FOR YOUR OPINION.

      I started by stating that demanding respect for an opinion which really isn't one but is only outright dismissal of a topic that is thousands of years old and has many books written about it, isn't correct. Again, you can dismiss the topic and even insult the fact I posted a link, for all it's petty and poor form. But to DEMAND THAT THIS BE RESPECTED, that is going too far. When you show utter contempt to your peers in the chatbox, you can't demand respect in return.

      Respect simply doesn't work that way.

      [–]Hematomato 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

      I'm trying to think of what it would even look like if the answer were no.

      "I'm sorry, sir, that uninformed opinion is contraband and I'm going to have to take it."

      "Oh, man, they took my opinion and now all I feel about this subject is apathy!"

      Also - you know what the problem with "extensive research" is? Often, it causes fixations and obsessions and distortions. It can cause otherwise intelligent people to believe ridiculous bullshit. Be careful with obsessed people who have done hundreds of hours of research.

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        [–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Example: liberals like to cut children's genitals off after grooming them as trans.

        I'd say this is about 5% true and 95% false.

        [–]GuyWhite 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        Yes they are. This is how informed folks identify morons and idiots.

        [–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I think they're entitled to it not sure they should go around sharing it though

        [–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Yes. Ignorant people always have an opinion.

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          [–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          No. Just ignorant about the situation. Ignorant is not the same as stupid. You can fix ignorance. You can't fix stupid.