(From FlashGitz Tom and Don) Who would you rather your son turned out like; Ben Shapiro or Andrew Tate?

submitted by Mcheetah from self.AskSaidIt

Andrew Tate has the Smallest Dick Energy ever and is the epitome of a wanna-be Alpha Male. He has the stereotypical body, money, cars, and hired actresses to look like the stereotypical self-made Alpha Male like what a Liberal's parody of supposed "Toxic Masculinity" looks like (if it was real.) But Andrew Tate is also gay. Like really fuckin' gay. He also can't make himself feel good without shitting on others by comparison; hence the SDE and false confidence he built his "brand" off of. Even if you put that aside though, he's been banned from several countries and may be part of a human trafficking ring or associated with it. And I guarantee you Tate won't be an "alpha" in prison (especially once they hear he got verbally bitch slapped by Greta fuckin' Thunberg of all people.) So you have to consider all that in mind. Tate gives off the sense of being "confident" and is very much successful with the "self-help" Matrix scam online classes bullshit, but his character is severely lacking.

And Ben Shapiro is... Ben Shapiro. A 5'6" super-Jewy Jew who you 100% could tell was shit-on and bullied in grade school, so made it his life's duty to be intellectually stronger than all of the "mental midgets" of the world, as a way to feel superior. He's built his brand off of shitty debating tactics which include info-dumps and statistic-bombing that don't actually change people's minds or convince them of anything, but hey, he's kinda rich. So good for him, I guess? Ben Shapiro is the eternal sourpuss who doesn't know how to have fun and his baby sister is physically bigger (5'8"), stronger, more endowed, more attractive, and more likeable and charming than him, but at least he isn't a criminal. That's something?

So which would you rather you son turned out like? Tate or Shapiro? (And to point it out; no I'm not Liberal or woke; you can be "based" without falling for hucksters and con-men, you know?)

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[–]BobOki 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Ahh yes, that will get people on your side... bullshit ad hominen attacks with zero substance, all while attacking some of the few people in public that actually give two shits about men's rights and health. Why do they hate men so much, and more so white straight men, and most so any who does not bow down to their insane harmful ideology who preys on kids?

[–]Mcheetah[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, a Tate dicksucker and cultist, eh? Guess I hit a nerve.

Point out the stuff I said that was actually wrong or inaccurate. Please. It's also a somewhat lighthearted post; you're not supposed to get triggered over it, cause it's not like I lied here or anything.

It's also not an "ad hominem" attack when it's not an actual debate or argument going on. Please think for yourself and stop drinking the Red Pill scammer Kool Aid. Andrew Tate isn't even necessarily "wrong" and I'm not Blue Pilled; you're just objectively a massive fucking idiot if you buy into that Hustler's University, fake Alpha shit. Do you SERIOUSLY think Tate gives a fuck about you, man? At least Jordan Peterson is actually giving you real advice for $49.99 a month over some Hustler's University "Don't be a pussy; JUST BE A MAN!!!" bullshit. Can't get a fulfilling job and earn enough money and happiness to better my life cause I guess I wasn't manning hard enough. A sucker really is born every minute.

Come on, dude. Don't be a sheep. This is just the opposite side of the BLM shit; "join our cult or you hate black people and want to kill us all." Here it's, "Join our cult or you're a beta-cuck Libtard who bows down to the SJWs and Twitter Feminists!"

You also never answered the question.

(You wrote a response, but it was a giant wall of text and whiny immature bullshit that ended with "and I blocked you," so I didn't read any of that. Was going to. But yeah, keep up that major SDE and yelling at the internet, Ma' Giga-Redditor.)

[–]BobOki 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So... no on all counts. I could not give two shits about Tate or Shapiro, and I am not about to read whatever moronic bullshit that you and your "type" always ASSUME other say, think, and are, and just call you the outright hypocrite and racist that you have shown yourself to be. "OOHHHH we just wanted to be treated the SAME as everyone else, we just want to be left alone, we are tired of people telling us what we can and cannot do" and then you proceed to demand special treatment, not leave anyone not like you alone, and tell people what they can and cannot do or say. You are the WORST type of hypocrite, not because you do the very things you fought against for years and are undermining it all, but because you have been lied to so much and bought in to the bullshit that only 5% of the world even believes, that you are now too stupid to see just how disgusting and harmful you are to everyone else around you, you know the other 95%.

No one likes you, no one likes your dogma, no one likes your pandering, no one likes your media, no one likes your movies, no one likes your video games, no one likes your lectures, and as a whole it is starting to show that people are tired of it. You have DEMANDED that everyone else in the world be FORCED to bend to your bullshit and are not asking for equality, you are demanding everyone else LOSE rights so you can THINK you will feel better.... as suicide rates in your culture are SKYROCKETING. Your inability to SHUT THE FUCK UP and enjoy equal rights is now swinging that pendulum the other way, and you better hope and pray that because of how far you swung it to one side, that it does not swing back the other way and you lose all the rights you gained.

I support equality for all, but the second you step out of that and take rights from others or demand special rights, both of which you have done, I am done with your cause and more over will actively work against it. You received the right to marry, you received protections from discrimination, and that was just not good enough for you, to be like everyone else, and you just shifted your goal posts. You do not want to be equal, you want to be the oppressor, the very thing you were against. Congrats, you played yourself and everyone hates you for it, including the REAL LGBT community who is now starting to take BACK their community and kicking all your fucking fakers and ideologs out because you have harmed their community so badly from your stupid. Enjoy going back to being a no body, and I hope it will hurt to see both Tate and Shapiro continue to be more relevant and liked than you ever will be.

Oh.... and blocked you, I came to saidit for open debate, talking freely and openly about sensitive subjects as well as treating each other with respect, not to have some low IQ mouth breather think they are ENTITLED enough to be able to lecture me about ANYTHING, much less shit they are flat out wrong about, and think I need to bend the knee to you. Get fucked, those times are FAR gone, and for most of us they never started. Enjoy irrelevancy and being a part of history where we all look back at how it is not possible for a minority movement to occur without going too far, always going too far.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Their defining characteristic isn't caring about men's rights and health, since a lot of people do that. They just know which words to choose.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

A lot of people huh? Name 10.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Like every leftwing website after they saw trump leading the pools and started worrying about men's health again

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Still waiting on one single person that has publicly stood up for men's heath/mental health and actually done something to help. I may not like Tate or Shapiro, but I can respect that they are openly advocating for men's issues and people like Tate are trying to speak DIRECTLY to men about taking their lives back, stopping being subservient... and oh hell yes he is machismo turned up to 11, but men NEED something, ANYTHING, to help them through this dark time where they are often told to their faces the whole world wishes they were dead, will never be anything, are worthless compared to women or whatever fake gender is popular today, and when you add that with extreme isolation and quite literally no where to find help.... you are setting yourself up for the MASSIVE amount of suicide rising in men (who already lead in suicides), and eventually I think you are going to see the younger people who are FAR less mentally and emotionally stable (incels come to mind) start to act out and take what they want.

Quote me now guys, unless this country wakes the fuck up and stop being so god damn sexist and bigoted towards white men in particular, I am calling within 3 years a HUGE spike in rape and battery. You quite literally only have to look at past minorities and how their neighborhoods and crime lives turned out when they were marginalized and treated this way.

[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Still waiting on one single person that has publicly stood up for men's heath/mental health and actually done something to help

Holdon! That's different. The leftwingers I mentioned only showed themselves as concerned. That's different from actually doing anything.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I do not count talk as action, politicians say they will cure cancer, but never do. Wishes don't wash dishes, so someone just saying they care, than doing nothing at all after kinda cancels out their shallow lies.

Pretty much to me, you don't have to like a person to agree with something they do, and give them credit for that. Kinda like enjoy the music not the singer.... it's SO hard to do, but we need to do it to keep our heads level and open minded.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I do not count talk as action, politicians say they will cure cancer, but never do. Wishes don't wash dishes, so someone just saying they care, than doing nothing at all after kinda cancels out their shallow lies.

Look. It is something when a leftwing stops beating a dead dog of saying "men bad" and just comes outright and defends men.

That's way different than a politician saying they will cure cancer. One is expected the other is not.

Fucking new york times came and said "are we the bad guys?"

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we have strayed quite far from the original subject here, and while I kinda am interested in where it is going, I do still want an answer to my original question, that is to name 10 leftwingnuts who are pro-men, men's health, men's mental health, and does more than just say it. If I got a dime for everytime I have heard a liberal say they care about something and then either not do shit about it or do something completely opposed to it, like complaining there is "too much trash in the sea and we need to stop using plastics" who then go out to buy cases of bottled water, I would be fucking rich. If I got a nickel for any time a politician, yeah side does NOT matter, who said "fuck you poors" and gave themselves a raise and tax cut while telling us we need to pull up our bootstraps, well I would not be poor ;)

Long and short of it is the left talks, that's quite literally all they do. You have crazies that do crazy shit as well as terrorists that do terrorists' shit in the name of nature and the like, but those are outliers and the exception. I am not trying to be political here, even though you are which is fine in this case for sure, but I just am a little floored when I see the party of the "little man" and the party that "cares" doing their level beat to limit speech to only what they want, and to ignore people in need to make sure that that fake female with a beard who just raped a girl in prison is given yet another pass on their bad behavior while calling for all males to be exterminated. wtf is even going on with the far left?

edit I also updoodled you because I do not disagree with what you said AT ALL, I just want to stop trailing away from the question you cannot answer ;)

[–]NastyWetSmear 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Tate is a douchebag, but he's popular with women, appears to be wealthy... Or, was before the Romanian government snatched up most of his property?... And is, physically, in good shape.

Shapiro is annoying, but he's obviously on the ball. He'll never be a physical specimen, sure, and he's not oozing the kind of charisma that will see him fending off women with a stick, but he does okay for himself.

I guess my question is this: Does this have to be "Who does my son turn out like?", or can it be "I notice my son is growing up like..."? Because if I noticed my son was growing up and starting to talk and act like Andrew Tate, I feel like it wouldn't be too late to help him not see women as tools and to think more of his own happiness and the possibility of living a life he could be comfortable and loved in, rather than chasing some dream of owning a harem of whores for money. He'd still be charismatic and well put together, but maybe I could help him shake off all those things that make him think he has to lie and manipulate to get what he wants... And also maybe it's not too late for him to get over his conspiracy theory mindset?

If not, despite his flaws, I guess Ben. Ben will never be perfect, but while I might not agree with him and might not be able to listen to his voice for more than 10 minutes, I wouldn't go to sleep at night wondering when the next line of coke would leave him shooting up a petrol station while shouting that "The Man" was there, watching him.

[–]Mcheetah[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I guess my question is this: Does this have to be "Who does my son turn out like?", or can it be "I notice my son is growing up like..."?

Their original question implied, you wouldn't be in your son's life, as if your ex wife had custody of him, or more specifically, "they were locked in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for ten years with only Tate or Shapiro as a mentor." And even in their original question, they brought up how both aren't exactly the best ideals of what a man should be and are on the extreme ends (successful fit douchebag, or successful small annoying pseudo-intellectual.) That's the point of their question; which guy is the less awful option, not that you would want your son to exactly emulate either one of these dudes. You don't get someone who's actually a Jordan Peterson or Jocko Willink father figure; you only get Tate or Shapiro.

And at least you're not one of these offended, butthurt faggots in here sucking Tate's microdick as if he's some kind of Red Pill Messiah or something. I thought his 15 minutes of fame already ended months ago. I can't take anyone who looks up to Andrew Tate seriously; he's literally just a Red Pill version of a feminist and just as stupid and deceptive as one.

Great answer, by the way.

[–]NastyWetSmear 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh that's right.
"With Goku?"
"... No."

Okay, well... I guess Ben then! I'd rather an annoying kid than one that's actually out there ruining lives.

Also, thank you!... I, uh, think. Even if I did like Tate, I think a fun little hypothetical is okay. He won't lose any sleep over us debating if we want our kids to be like him.

Here's a hypothetical in return, stop me if you've heard this one: Werewolf of Vampire? ;)

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think if Shapiro was a different man outside the cameras it wouldn't be so bad. A con-man like Elon Musk. I would actually quite enjoy having Musk as a son dude is just a troll lol

[–]NastyWetSmear 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Richest Troll on earth!... I'd put up with a lot of behaviour from my son if he was buying me a new car any time my old one ran out of petrol.

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I mean. Trolling like come on. Dude doesn't go around raping people and stuff I think it's fine.

[–]hfxB0oyA 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Shapiro has a moral compass. Tate does not. I'll go with Shapiro.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ben Shapiro. Andrew Tates father died when he was young.

[–]BobOki 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ahh yes, that will get people on your side... bullshit ad hominen attacks with zero substance, all while attacking some of the few people in public that actually give two shits about men's rights and health. Why do they hate men so much, and more so white straight men, and most so any who does not bow down to their insane harmful ideology who preys on kids?

[–]Maggotus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Stupid question, and I'm sure you know absolutely NOTHING about either Tate or Shapiro in real life. You just want to spew your garbage opinion to stir up shit because you like the way it smells. Enjoy that I guess...