Do you guys think conservatives are more willing to get along or do you think that leftist are more willing to get along?

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[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I think you're asking the wrong question. There are people who are willing to get along and people who want nothing to do with those who think differently. I don't know that the ones willing to get along specifically belong to political groups. And I don't know that there are that many who are willing to discuss their differences in good faith. We're lucky to have found a little island of such people here.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There was definitely a difference until about 3 years ago. I rarely had issues with "right-wing" groups, they were generally tolerant and not so dogmatic, but I can't last a single second in leftist spaces without getting cancelled and banned.

After the BLM riots though, it's about the same. Even now there's still a difference, but it's much narrower. I get slightly more grace from the people here for being a tranny than I did on reddit for being a "bigot", but they still wouldn't spare me if they had power.

[–]Mcheetah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Legitimately: No one cares if you're trans. We really don't. And this is speaking towards those people in general. We're just not going to let you fuck-up all of society for your insecurities and feelings. Most people, especially on the center-right, tend to have a "you do you" attitude, as do I. But no, we're not doing the pronoun shit, letting you rape women in restrooms, or compete in women's sports without a fight. You get EQUAL treatment, not SPECIAL treatment.

And the moral of the story is: EVERYONE in society who isn't rich or a hot woman, gets treated like shit. Surprise! If you (trans people, in general) don't accept equal treatment and feel entitled to special treatment and trying to shame straight men into being homosexual for you or using she/her pronouns to describe "dick owning people," you will never be accepted in society and people's intolerance towards you will continue to grow even further.

This is why I don't accept your belief that the right is as intolerant as the left. Because people in the middle and right, have gotten fed up with losing their rights to the super minority in the Alphabet crowd, for the past eight years, at this point. We saw what just happened in England with the "Lesbian Nana" cunt police officer abusing her power. It's not "intolerance" at this point, it's frustration.

And I know it's not trans people in general, just like most women aren't feminists and most black people aren't BLM, but frankly speaking: Too many of y'all are fucking immature assholes. And not enough are the Blair White "moderate" mature respectful types. Which, considering the mental health state involved here, I guess shouldn't be surprising.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Frustration leads to intolerance. Intolerance leads to anger. Anger leads leads to hate. Hate leads to the dark side. Wake up, this is a psyop. What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a dark lord of the Sith, the one behind everything including the culture war?

Already you've made tons of idpol assumptions about me and what I believe. That's the problem. I don't think it's fair to let MtFs compete in female athletics, I don't like pronouns, I don't like any of that crazy stuff, but in your mind it doesn't matter what I'm doing, I'm guilty of it all purely by association. This is the same game as "you're white, so you're a slaver". And you know how those people ended up.

[–]Mcheetah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Frustration leads to intolerance. Intolerance leads to anger. Anger leads leads to hate. Hate leads to the dark side.

No. Don't make excuses. And I'm well aware the Jessica Yaniv's and George Floyd's of the world are just being used as pawns and tools by the Klaus Schwab's and Bill Gates' of the world to Divide and Conquer; I'm just saying too many of them are all-too-happy to be used as pawns by power-hungry authoritarians.

Already you've made tons of idol assumptions about me and what I believe. I'm guilty of it all purely by association.

No. I already said this is about transwomen in general. And not enough "moderates" like you're claiming to be, speak out against the Jessica Yaniv and Kaitlyn Jenner types and instead, would rather play the victim despite being protected by all of the major institutions in society right now. You're letting the bad apples paint all of you in a negative light, which means more and more people are going to start hating you all, not just "the conservative right" like you claim.

I'm apolitical for the most part and I already don't want to deal with any transpeople in real life because they're more than likely to be the whiny, asshole "RESPECT MY PRONOUNS" types than the Blaire White types who don't expect the world to wipe their ass for them. No one's got time to deal with that immature shit. It's the same way moderate, center-leaning women don't speak out against the batshit insane feminists dumping their men over not capitulating to the fucking Barbie movie, then complain when men don't want to approach them for a date anymore. Ain't exactly "silence is violence," but it IS "evil triumphs when good men stand around and do nothing."

And not that it matters, but for the record, I only use pronouns if they can actually pass. I know Blaire White isn't really a woman, but they're 5'5" and 90% pass for the most part, so I won't feel weird calling White a "she/her," as opposed to doing it to some 6'2" dude with linebacker's shoulders, a boxer's jaw, and a 5 o'clock shadow, like Caitlyn Jenner or Chris-Chan, which are clearly fuckin' dudes. I'm not going to lie to my eyes and brain for some crazy person going through an identity crisis. At best, I'll only address one of those types by name and avoid all pronouns altogether, but I'm not calling a linebacker in a dress and wig a "she/her" and placing him in the same gender I'm sexually and romantically attracted to. THAT is literally what "tolerance" is. But so many on the woke left want to try to force "acceptance" onto people through the law, especially in the UK and Canada right now, which is only going to lead to more hate and resentment in the end, even against "moderates" like yourself.

So no; don't even try that Star Wars bullshit and excuses. You know why people don't tolerate trannies in 2023 and it ain't cause of "transphobia."

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's exactly what I said. But you don't recognize that because you see me as part of a group rather than an individual.

[–]Mcheetah 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No. It's because you were whining about being a perpetual victim and thinking the right "bullies" you for no reason.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know why they do it. But it's not fair to convict me of other people's actions.